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Old 28th February 2011, 00:17   #121
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Wouldn't surprise me. That's how Gately came out wasn't it?
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Old 28th February 2011, 08:27   #122
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Yeah, but Davies is hardly as well known. I'm surprised this is front page worthy, to be honest.
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Old 28th February 2011, 08:54   #123
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Yeah, but Davies is hardly as well known. I'm surprised this is front page worthy, to be honest.
It is only a big story because (i) he is the first to come out and (ii) cricket is in the news due to the world cup and yesterday's nail-biter -v- India. England reserve wicketkeepers are not generally that newsworthy.

If he told the squad pre-ashes tour then their is a fair chances are this was known / suspected by some of the travelling press corps. He might simply have decided to do this now pre-season to give others in and around his county side time to get used to the idea (nobody ever knows for sure how others will react to such news) rather than let it be a distraction. He will It was not necessarily to spike a kiss and tell boyfriend "You're Out! X caught batting for other side" -type story in the Sunday red tops. But it might have been.

I suppose the fact the papers are content to print a 'nice' story instead of muck-raking and maximum prurience is progress of a sort, even if there is still something fundamentally unpleasant about such journalism.

That said, good luck to him. Pity it wasn't Alastair Cook as he is rather better looking.
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Old 28th February 2011, 09:22   #124
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Davies will be fine in Championship games, but I do worry about the on day crowds at some grounds. Sadly Scarborough is one that comes to mind
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Old 28th February 2011, 11:29   #125
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I couldnt believe my eyes when I read the Telegraph piece on Davies today.

What on earth was Simon Briggs doing describing Davies as a "silky glovesman"?

Good luck to him. Hope it wasnt forced but have my suspicions - either way a sadly tough thing to do for, from all accounts, a quiet bloke though apprently its been known for some time at Surrey.

Much ado about nothing really.
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Old 28th February 2011, 12:11   #126
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Hopefully in future we won't even be discussing people's sexuality and Steve's brave decision takes us a step closer towards that day.
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Old 28th February 2011, 12:14   #127
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Telegraph made the observation that had he been a member of England's womens cricket team and made the announcement not a single eyebrow would have been raised.

I'm not sure what to make of that.
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I think there are at least 2 openly lesbian members of the England set up.

Sadly I think people assume that women's sport is full of lesbians. Certainly whenever I tell people I play hockey I get stupid comments like "isn't hockey just a sport for lesbians" or "oh you must be a carpet muncher then".

sometimes all you can do is roll your eyes
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Old 28th February 2011, 13:08   #129
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I think there are at least 2 openly lesbian members of the England set up.

Sadly I think people assume that women's sport is full of lesbians. Certainly whenever I tell people I play hockey I get stupid comments like "isn't hockey just a sport for lesbians" or "oh you must be a carpet muncher then".

sometimes all you can do is roll your eyes
at least 4 of the GB (I think GB maybe England) women's team are. I always thought it was funny because it is assumed all women who play hockey are butch lesbians but as a former male hockey player people assume I am gay for playing a women's game. Not sure how that works!
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Davies will be fine in Championship games, but I do worry about the on day crowds at some grounds. Sadly Scarborough is one that comes to mind
There will always be one or two bad, very sloshed, apples, but I think to 99.9% it's a non-issue.
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Old 28th February 2011, 14:40   #131
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at least 4 of the GB (I think GB maybe England) women's team are. I always thought it was funny because it is assumed all women who play hockey are butch lesbians but as a former male hockey player people assume I am gay for playing a women's game. Not sure how that works!
People were similarly perplexed about mixed netball but generally satisfied with the explanation that it was a pretty good way to meet women.
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Old 28th February 2011, 17:40   #132
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I think there are at least 2 openly lesbian members of the England set up.

Sadly I think people assume that women's sport is full of lesbians. Certainly whenever I tell people I play hockey I get stupid comments like "isn't hockey just a sport for lesbians" or "oh you must be a carpet muncher then".

sometimes all you can do is roll your eyes
Sorry, but at times stereotypes are true.

25 years years ago I worked with a woman who played hockey with many of the Yorkshire county team. My boss was 'straight' (awful term ... the lady was a typical West Yorks wife & mother) but she often reported that 'many' of her team-mates were lesbians.
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As a female hockey player I know plenty of lesbians who play hockey and also umpire. In my experience most teams will have players who are lesbians but there are some teams who perhaps have a majority who are rather than a minority. Yes some do fit the butch stereotype there are several who you wouldn't realise were until they unless someone pointed it out to you.

By the sounds of it Steve's teammates at Surrey have known about his sexuality but have kept it as a secret. I can though see that touring for long periods of time could be difficult not least when the WAGS come on tour. Whether it will give other players the confidence to come out remains to be seen!

It does now perhaps explain why Anderson decided to do the Attitude shoot in September.
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Hopefully in future we won't even be discussing people's sexuality and Steve's brave decision takes us a step closer towards that day.
Exactly. I am far more interested in their batting partners than their sexual partners. I couldn't even tell you how many of the England team are married as I couldn't care less.

In fact, I consider it a positive as at least he won't be skiving off future tours claiming paternity leave.
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BTW does this explain why he was suddenly dropped by England?
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BTW does this explain why he was suddenly dropped by England?
I'm assuming you means with regards to an agreement between the England management and Davies for him to drop out of the squad, rather than the ECB being rampantly homophobic.
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I'm assuming you means with regards to an agreement between the England management and Davies for him to drop out of the squad, rather than the ECB being rampantly homophobic.
I don't think Davies wanted to be dropped. I don't know whether it was homophobia, the knowledge that the red tops had the story but nobody saw Davies being dropped.
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If the mental burden was affecting his cricket, it certainly could have been a factor.
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There are some interesting responses by Mike Selvey about this very point on the Guardian Blog about this.

His main response is here.
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Exactly. I am far more interested in their batting partners than their sexual partners. I couldn't even tell you how many of the England team are married as I couldn't care less.
I agree and also thought we were beyond the point where this was really news but very few professional sportsmen are out so it clearly remains an issue in some areas.

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What a homophobic comment. Gay men can have children.
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