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Old 4th September 2007, 19:38   #81
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But do Sussex get compensated if Prior gets selected by England for the Sussex matches he misses. It also leaves us with just one keeper. What happens if he gets injured!

Unlike Broad and Bopara he has been getting selected for both Test matches and one-day internationals.
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Old 4th September 2007, 19:57   #82
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I'd have thought his contract with Surrey would address getting the call-up from England.

Obviously, if he doesn't play for Sussex, he won't be eligible for a CC match fee, or for win bonuses and the like. His basic retainer, however, would be paid by the county and I am not clear as to whether England would pick up a portion of that based on the number of days in a summer that Prior is on England duty.

If Prior is still in the England squad after the winter tours of SL and New Zealand, this could be an issue for Sussex in the upcoming season. They'd need to find another wicket keeper for their squad. Surely there are young wickies springing up everywhere down in the Sussex leagues?
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Old 4th September 2007, 21:40   #83
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They'd need to find another wicket keeper for their squad. Surely there are young wickies springing up everywhere down in the Sussex leagues?
They have Ben Brown who is the current England U19 keeper but that isn't the point. Sussex are paying his wages and not being allowed to play him and won't unless he is centrally contracted be compensated for his absence.
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Old 4th September 2007, 21:45   #84
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They have Ben Brown who is the current England U19 keeper but that isn't the point. Sussex are paying his wages and not being allowed to play him and won't unless he is centrally contracted be compensated for his absence.
Yes, well that is not how I'd think that it works, reference my first point that his County contract ought to address the eventuality of being called up to play for England during the county season.

Obviously, I don't know all the ins and outs of the fine print, but every other player that gets the call, who is not centrally contracted, faces the same situation, so I am quite certain that it is a well-worn path with lots of standard clauses.
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Old 5th September 2007, 11:05   #85
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I personally would only give out 10 contracts anyway and let everyone else fight until they truly deserve one for continued excellence. If Prior has a good winter away then he could get a summer contract, I think England did that a couple of years ago for a couple of people but whether they still do it now I don't know. I think Hodd and Brown are perfect understudies, in fact in Brown's case it could be a very positive step as if he was third in line then he would inevitably end up somewhere else, which I don't want to see happen
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Old 5th September 2007, 20:51   #86
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If Prior gets dropped by England because of poor keeping will he take over gloves from Hodd? On the evidence of what I have seen from Prior against India and having watched Hodd excellent glovework this summer I sincerely hope not. I would like to see Hodd keep the gloves and Prior made to get in the side as a specialist batsmen. He is unquestionably good enough to do so. Hodd is averaging 40 with the bat and is by far the better keeper.
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Old 5th September 2007, 21:14   #87
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What did you make of Prior's keeping in the ODIs? Do you think he might have got a hand to one or more of the glances that went for 4, or the 5 wides? I haven't seen replays, just heard the grumbling. Is he keeping worse for England than he has performed for Sussex in the past?
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Old 5th September 2007, 22:34   #88
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His keeping in the test matches was definitely worse! But in the one-day internationals has been the same.

Hodd is a far better keeper and can bat as well. I have heard some people say that keeping wise he reminds them of Alan Knott.

I would like to see Hodd retained as keeper and Prior earn his place as a specailist batsmen. He is certainly good enough to do so. If he gets dropped by England the only way I can see him winning his England place back.
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what i've seen of Hodd he looks very good with the gloves.
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Judging by the conversations around me at Hove yesterday, Sussex members are

a) miffed Prior may not get a central contract
b) prefer Hodd anyway

Oh, and btw, Prior isn't the only Sussex player with a Porsche... there was one parked outside the dressing room yesterday with a SSX numberplate...
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Judging by the conversations around me at Hove yesterday, Sussex members are

a) miffed Prior may not get a central contract
b) prefer Hodd anyway

Oh, and btw, Prior isn't the only Sussex player with a Porsche... there was one parked outside the dressing room yesterday with a SSX numberplate...
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That was my conclusion too, Rey. I wonder if drove it to Yorskhire when he went to tell them he wasn't taking their job?
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Old 6th September 2007, 13:11   #93
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Judging by the conversations around me at Hove yesterday, Sussex members are

a) miffed Prior may not get a central contract
b) prefer Hodd anyway
Agreed. Hodd is the better keeper. If Prior is dropped by England I hope Sussex tell Prior that they are going to let Hodd keep the gloves and that he will have to make the team as a batsmen. He is good enough to do so. The only way we can fit both in 1XI is if Prior concentrates on his batting. We also have another talented young keeper in Ben Brown in 2XI.
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So evidently England's number one keeper wouldn't be first choice keeper for his county side?
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Well done to Hodd on his century. Of Ambrose, Prior and Hodd I like Hodd the best.
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So evidently England's number one keeper wouldn't be first choice keeper for his county side?
I suppose there are two ways to look at it. We have extremely good players coming through or we have a very poor keeper.
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I was down at Hove today, nice to see it pretty much full. Hodd played very nicely indeed, the pitch was flat as anything which shows Mushy's worth I suppose.

As for the keeping thing, Prior is guaranteed the gloves for Sussex in between England matches. If he gets dropped by England and Monty or Grizzly retire then it probably would be a good idea for him to become a batsman and take over as captain. Only Machan looks like possibly coming through as a batsman in the next few years, so we'll need both Prior and Hodd
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Sharkey - I agree with you about Prior becoming a batsmen once the senior players retire. I don't think Prior will be the next Sussex captain as the Sussex managament have made it quite clear by appointing Yardy as Vice Captain this season that they see him as the next Sussex captain which I think is a good choice.
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Old 13th September 2007, 20:25   #100
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Congratulations to 2XI on winning 2XI championship. It is just a shame there wasn't a trophy or indeed anyone available from the ECB to present the trophy to Sussex at the end of the game.

Top 2XI run scorers (in all competitions)

MA Thornely 990 runs @ 41.25 HS 164* 2/4
SA Piolet 720 runs @ 31.30 HS 124 2/2
TMJ Smith (c) 627 runs @ 48.23 HS 95 0/4
MJT Gould 522 runs @ 30.71 HS 85 0/4
OP Rayner 506 runs @ 23.00 HS 128 1/2
CD Hopkinson 470 runs @ 42.73 HS 93 0/5
RG Aga 425 runs @ 30.36 HS 85* 0/1
BC Brown (+) 398 runs @ 33.17 HS 95 0/2
MW Machan 303 runs @ 25.25 HS 41

Top 2XI wicket takers (in all competitions)

OP Rayner 52 wickets @ 14.42 BB 5-11 3/0
CJ Liddle 44 wickets @ 17.84 BB 5-31 1/0
WAT Beer 23 wickets @ 18.52 BB 5-120 1/0
RG Aga 23 wickets @ 22.70 BB 5-30 1/0
TMJ Smith (c) 22 wickets @ 28.36 BB 4-30

A real team effort from a young team with an average age of just 20.
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