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Old 1st November 2007, 16:13   #161
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No surprise to see that Dave Hussey has committed himself to Notts for the next two seasons.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 10:14   #162
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No surprise to see that Dave Hussey has committed himself to Notts for the next two seasons.
No surprise to me either but it's bloody good news nonetheless.
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Old 24th November 2007, 14:47   #163
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Team for next season -

Wagh, Jefferson, Wood, Hussey, Patel, Read, Ealham, Broad, Swann, Shreck, Footitt.

I think it is time for Footitt to be given a run in the side. Broad probably will be away for ODIs and then Harris can replace him.
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Old 24th November 2007, 15:01   #164
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Jefferson, Wood, Wagh, Hussey, Patel, Read (+,c ), Ealham, Broad, Swann, Sidebottom, Shreck

If Broad, Swann and Sidebottom are on England duty I would expect Franks, Ferley and Harris to come into the team.
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Old 24th November 2007, 15:10   #165
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Jefferson, Wood, Wagh, Hussey, Patel, Read (+,c ), Ealham, Broad, Swann, Sidebottom, Shreck

If Broad, Swann and Sidebottom are on England duty I would expect Franks, Ferley and Harris to come into the team.
Swann would only be on standby when England are playing at home. Sidebottom looks the only one to be playing with England in Tests. I am assuming that Hoggard, Sidebottom and Harmison will be the England bowlers so Broad will also be available to play for Notts during Tests.
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Old 24th November 2007, 21:08   #166
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Jefferson, Wood, Wagh, Hussey, Patel, Read (+,c ), Ealham, Broad, Swann, Sidebottom, Shreck

If Broad, Swann and Sidebottom are on England duty I would expect Franks, Ferley and Harris to come into the team.
Looks a fair team. I don't think Wood is as good a player as Gallian was but he's a lot younger.

Mick Newell is seeking another back up seamer as well apparently.

Also good to see that we have 10 England eligible players in our team. The reduction to one overseas player punishes sides like us rather than teams full of Kolpaks. Two overseas players should be fine if you've got 8/9 other players who can play for England in the team.
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Looks a fair team. I don't think Wood is as good a player as Gallian was but he's a lot younger.

Mick Newell is seeking another back up seamer as well apparently.

Also good to see that we have 10 England eligible players in our team. The reduction to one overseas player punishes sides like us rather than teams full of Kolpaks. Two overseas players should be fine if you've got 8/9 other players who can play for England in the team.
Don't worry about Kolpaks, the more a team have usually the lower down the division they stay. Having Hussey is like having an extra player anyway. It's a fine team, the way it is, but Footitt needs to be developed in the first team.

I see that Notts are looking for a strength and conditioning coach. Maybe he can keep the bowlers fit and on the field.
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Old 27th November 2007, 12:37   #168
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Newell has said that Broad and Swann may well bat ahead of Ealham this year to give them more opportunities to develop with England in mind. Ealham still does a fair bit of bowling and is fairly relaxed about his place in the batting order, apparently, so could be coming in at 9.
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Newell has said that Broad and Swann may well bat ahead of Ealham this year to give them more opportunities to develop with England in mind. Ealham still does a fair bit of bowling and is fairly relaxed about his place in the batting order, apparently, so could be coming in at 9.
He'd be one hell of a good number 9, wouldn't he?
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Looks a fair team. I don't think Wood is as good a player as Gallian was but he's a lot younger.

Mick Newell is seeking another back up seamer as well apparently.

Also good to see that we have 10 England eligible players in our team. The reduction to one overseas player punishes sides like us rather than teams full of Kolpaks. Two overseas players should be fine if you've got 8/9 other players who can play for England in the team.
Without being harsh, thats all very well. But how many if the England qualifieds have been produced by Notts? Isnt having a team full to the brim of palyers signed from other counties - Wagh, Read, Broad, Ealham, Sidebottom. Swann, Jefferson etc - just as bad?
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Without being harsh, thats all very well. But how many if the England qualifieds have been produced by Notts? Isnt having a team full to the brim of palyers signed from other counties - Wagh, Read, Broad, Ealham, Sidebottom. Swann, Jefferson etc - just as bad?
Not if those players have been developed at Notts, no.
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Except they havent really - except Read I would say. And even then I wouldnt agree. Notts have a benefactor and money (which is why they always beat Warwicks, who ae just as bad for players) and tend to sign players ready made from elsewhere ( I think they won the CC a few years back without single home grown player). I dont have a problem with that - but have a slight one with taking praise for English qualifieds and "dissing" Kolpaks - when all your English qualifieds are nicked from elsewhere - and the teams you nick them from then have to get Kolpaks to replace them.

Id bet Leicestershire have produced more internationals than Notts over the last 10 years. They all leave. Leics get Kolpaks to replace them. IMO Leics have still done the better job in producing test players.
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Fair enough, Kim. Obliquearse is a better bowler than he was but I'm not sure how much credit goes to Notts.
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Fair enough, Kim. Obliquearse is a better bowler than he was but I'm not sure how much credit goes to Notts.
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Id bet Leicestershire have produced more internationals than Notts over the last 10 years. They all leave. Leics get Kolpaks to replace them. IMO Leics have still done the better job in producing test players.
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Except they havent really - except Read I would say. And even then I wouldnt agree. Notts have a benefactor and money (which is why they always beat Warwicks, who ae just as bad for players) and tend to sign players ready made from elsewhere ( I think they won the CC a few years back without single home grown player). I dont have a problem with that - but have a slight one with taking praise for English qualifieds and "dissing" Kolpaks - when all your English qualifieds are nicked from elsewhere - and the teams you nick them from then have to get Kolpaks to replace them.

Id bet Leicestershire have produced more internationals than Notts over the last 10 years. They all leave. Leics get Kolpaks to replace them. IMO Leics have still done the better job in producing test players.
But then we are bringing English players through. Not to international level, perhaps, but we have developed players such as Patel, Franks and Shafayat ourselves. We also plucked Charlie Shreck from the minor counties. Obviously Shafayat had to move away to get the opportunities he needed, so is a slightly dubious example... I hope the same fate doesn't befall Footitt.

As for the development thing - Read, Shreck and possibly Sidebottom are all better players than when we signed them, and I think you could argue we've done Swann some good too.
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But then we are bringing English players through. Not to international level, perhaps, but we have developed players such as Patel, Franks and Shafayat ourselves. We also plucked Charlie Shreck from the minor counties. Obviously Shafayat had to move away to get the opportunities he needed, so is a slightly dubious example... I hope the same fate doesn't befall Footitt.

As for the development thing - Read, Shreck and possibly Sidebottom are all better players than when we signed them, and I think you could argue we've done Swann some good too.
Swann has improved a lot in his consistency- he doesn't bowl a half-tracker in nearly every over. I think what's helped him was the change in action, which was towards the end of his time at Northants. He got rid of the pronounced rock backwards that he had in his delivery stride, that always made him look off-balance.
In any case Swann moving to Notts was a good thing for both Northants and England, since it meant Monty could get into the first team.
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I see your point Kim but I would agree with shakattak.

Wouldn't it be fair to say though, that young players being kept out the side by established English players we've signed from other counties is mildly better than the said young players been kept out by Kolpaks?
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Some pics of the redevelopment from the Notts website... The new stand is looking flicking huge...

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/assets/construction/Construction%20Progress_1197378708_010nccc_dec_11. jpg

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/assets/construction/Construction%20Progress_1197378690_006nccc_dec_11. jpg

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/assets/construction/Construction%20Progress_1197378702_009nccc_dec_11. jpg
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