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Old 24th January 2016, 12:27   #121
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Well done Thunder, thought David Hussey got his bowling changes wrong at the death which cost the Stars in the end.
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Old 9th March 2016, 19:41   #122
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True.

It will be said that England players need to play more IPL and Big Bash while the standard in the T20 Blast I think is much higher. What England 20/20 players are lacking is their experience of playing in different countries and different wickets.
Sorry but that's delusional. The T20 Blast is vastly inferior to the IPL and Big Bash at every level.
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Old 11th March 2016, 10:49   #123
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Sorry but that's delusional. The T20 Blast is vastly inferior to the IPL and Big Bash at every level.
Ah yes. because all those young Aussie kids that KP and Luke Wright batter around their ovals are such world beaters?

Sorry, the Big Bash is bigger and better marketed but its quality inside doesn't match the shiny packaging.
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Old 11th March 2016, 11:20   #124
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Take Rashid for example.

25.44 econ 7.62 s/r 20.0 Yorks

16 at 14.12 econ 6.15 s/r 13.0 Adelaide Strikers
10 at 15.80 econ 6.86 s'r 13.8 South Australia
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Old 11th March 2016, 11:26   #125
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Take Rashid for example.

22.15 econ 7.37 s/r 18.0 Yorks

16 at 14.12 econ 6.15 s/r 13.0 Adelaide Strikers
10 at 15.80 econ 6.86 s'r 13.8 South Australia
http://www.ecb.co.uk/stats/averages/team/40

Rashid's e/r was 6.69 in the blast last year, although his average was 29 because he didn't take as many wickets.
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Old 11th March 2016, 12:01   #126
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Pietersen

17 BB 41.06
36 IPL games 35.75
33 Notts/Hants/Surrey 24.51
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Old 11th March 2016, 12:12   #127
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Sorry but that's delusional. The T20 Blast is vastly inferior to the IPL and Big Bash at every level.
How in the name of Kerry packer is the big bash a higher level? Goodness me.
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Old 11th March 2016, 12:16   #128
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17 BB 41.06
36 IPL games 35.75
33 Notts/Hants/Surrey 24.51
yes we know he was crap in the blast a couple of years ago when he only turned up agianst Somerset (much to our amusement at Sir Virgs expense) but otherwise that is just a random set of stats. I wonder if he much played more than a game or two for Hants. As I'm sure I've said before, the only time we've had any gauge on how good England t20s are against other sides from around the world in the Champions t20 they've usually not done well. The Aussie and Windies sides tended to do rather well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/e...nty20/averages Speaking of Luke Wright he did very well in England last year let alone Big Bash a couple of months ago.
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yes we know he was crap in the blast a couple of years ago when he only turned up agianst Somerset (much to our amusement at Sir Virgs expense) but otherwise that is just a random set of stats. I wonder if he much played more than a game or two for Hants. As I'm sure I've said before, the only time we've had any gauge on how good England t20s are against other sides from around the world in the Champions t20 they've usually not done well. The Aussie and Windies sides tended to do rather well.
Well when you don't have 40,000/50,000 chanting your name it's harder.
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I note that the veteran Michael Klinger got an s/r of 142 and average of 85 in last year's blast, yet has a career s/r of 125 and average of 37.
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yes we know he was crap in the blast a couple of years ago when he only turned up agianst Somerset (much to our amusement at Sir Virgs expense) but otherwise that is just a random set of stats. I wonder if he much played more than a game or two for Hants. As I'm sure I've said before, the only time we've had any gauge on how good England t20s are against other sides from around the world in the Champions t20 they've usually not done well. The Aussie and Windies sides tended to do rather well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/e...nty20/averages Speaking of Luke Wright he did very well in England last year let alone Big Bash a couple of months ago.
Was that in the event that took place 8 seconds after our champo finished? We could have won that (or losing finalist more likely) had we not been missing so many players. Darn it.
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Old 11th March 2016, 12:26   #132
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I note that the veteran Michael Klinger got an s/r of 142 and average of 85 in last year's blast, yet has a career s/r of 125 and average of 37.
We could play this all day. What does maxwell average in the blast?
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Well when you don't have 40,000/50,000 chanting your name it's harder.
My point was you can use any stats you want to create a story yet there are plenty there which argue against it which is why I've brought up Wright and now Klinger for two.

I've actually watched a fair bit of the blast over the last 3 years and although decent light entertainment, I hardly think wow I'm watching DA bestest ever, but then again I don't think I'm watching the best league in the world when I'm finally watching a decent team in Prem football.
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We could play this all day. What does maxwell average in the blast?
That's my whole point, a few matches here and there mean jack all and in any case that's pretty much your cricket posting history with regards to posting selected stats.
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That's my whole point, a few matches here and there mean jack all and in any case that's pretty much your cricket posting history.
33 matches count as jack all do they? Marvellous.
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33 matches count as jack all do they? Marvellous.
When they are a handful of games spread over about 12 years then yes because there is no real pattern other than he'd have probably looked quite good other than when playing with a gammy knee as he did and looked crap doing so 2 years ago.
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When they are a handful of games spread over about 12 years then yes because there is no real pattern other than he'd have probably looked quite good other than when playing with a gammy knee as he did and looked crap doing so 2 years ago.
But we were told he was fit! You have also just said that all international t20 records should be ignored.
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But we were told he was fit! You have also just said that all international t20 records should be ignored.
We were also told Matt Prior for one was fit when he came back for England in 2014, despite that being rubbish. I have said nothing of the sort in terms of removing t20 international records but I guess it would suit your agenda to move Pietersen's England t20 international record, even more so if you were to remove world t20 stats.
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The feeling I get is

Internationals
T20 Blast
BB
IPL

and I don't know about the rest, PSL, BPL, Georgie Pie, Ram Slam, CPL and SLPL.
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The feeling I get is

Internationals
T20 Blast
BB
IPL

and I don't know about the rest, PSL, BPL, Georgie Pie, Ram Slam, CPL and SLPL.
Georgie pie?!!

Anyway as you state it is just your opinion. I wouldn't know how to rate the comps against each other, though I am simply pointing out that a number of random statistics doesn't produce very much. I don't know what we learn about Gayle smacking the ball everywere in his 3 games for Somerset last year other than we know that he is an utter bully on flat decks, on short boundaries against less than top class bowling. Would have been top entertainment to watch but in essence we knew all of that already.
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