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Old 7th July 2017, 18:45   #21
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So after all the trumpeting about KP returning to Surrey for the T20 blast, he's not actually playing today and won't be appearing for a couple of weeks.
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Old 7th July 2017, 18:49   #22
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If the ECB marketed the existing competition as effectively as Surrey do then people might actually turn up and fill all the venues, then there wouldn't be any need for the franchise T20 for which we're expected to believe there's a massive latent audience that will never watch county teams, just waiting to be seduced by the prospect of watching hypothetical new teams that don't as yet even have names in the same grounds where established teams already play.
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I've had a lot of advertising of the Blast on my Facebook feed. I don't even follow Sussex on Facebook yet I've had targeted adverts of Mills bowling Gayle last year and Nash batting.
The smaller grounds attract loads of spectators and from what I've seen on TV over the last few years the atmosphere is great. It's only the big test grounds that have trouble getting full houses but, e.g., the Roses games are always pretty full. And of course, Surrey, who do a great job with this format.

Contrary to the aims of the tournament, however, the atmosphere at the Oval is not generally family-friendly: too much drunkenness and bad behaviour.
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So after all the trumpeting about KP returning to Surrey for the T20 blast, he's not actually playing today and won't be appearing for a couple of weeks.
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Old 7th July 2017, 20:55   #24
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So after all the trumpeting about KP returning to Surrey for the T20 blast, he's not actually playing today and won't be appearing for a couple of weeks.
Sorry if you have been disappointed but the 'trumpeting' has long made it clear that he would make his first appearance at the Oval on July 19.

If you received marketing info from The Oval claiming otherwise, you certainly have cause for complaint.
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Old 7th July 2017, 21:17   #25
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Sorry if you have been disappointed but the 'trumpeting' has long made it clear that he would make his first appearance at the Oval on July 19.

If you received marketing info from The Oval claiming otherwise, you certainly have cause for complaint.
I was referring to trumpeting when it was first announced. I'm afraid I didn't note the date he would start, and I'm not personally disappointed. I thought his fans might be, but clearly they would have found out exactly when he would be playing.
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The smaller grounds attract loads of spectators and from what I've seen on TV over the last few years the atmosphere is great. It's only the big test grounds that have trouble getting full houses but, e.g., the Roses games are always pretty full. And of course, Surrey, who do a great job with this format.

Contrary to the aims of the tournament, however, the atmosphere at the Oval is not generally family-friendly: too much drunkenness and bad behaviour.
The atmosphere at The Oval can certainly be boozy but I think the overwhelming majority of people behave themselves, as at all matches.
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The atmosphere at The Oval can certainly be boozy but I think the overwhelming majority of people behave themselves, as at all matches.
I went to one there 2 or 3 years ago and the rowdiness wasn't out of hand, but I've heard from Surrey member friends who find it uncomfortable. But it's a matter of personal taste, I suppose.
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Meanwhile Bopara is on course to be the hero for Essex.
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Surrey do have a strong side but then they have had a strong side for the last 3 one day finals! Dernbach also captains.....not sure about that.
Did a great job tonight - led from the front with energy and marshalled his bowlers very well.
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The atmosphere at The Oval can certainly be boozy but I think the overwhelming majority of people behave themselves, as at all matches.
I find the crowd and atmosphere at the Oval to be a little flat. Probably not that many genuine Surrey fans go to the games. In contrast Trent Bridge is boozier but more engaged in the game and getting behind the home side.

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Meanwhile Bopara is on course to be the hero for Essex.
Nope, fell at the final hurdle once again. He should have a thread named after him.

Currant the hero. Quite some player that lad.
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Meanwhile Bopara is on course to be the hero for Essex.
No, the usual happens with Bopara. What a fantastic last over by Curran 2 wickets for 5 runs.
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Interesting how Derbyshire do go in this competition, what with John Wright being brought in solely as T20 coach. The attack does look good especially with the lesser spotted Viljoen in it, however the batting does look a little weak next and I'm surprised we went with Henry and not a batsmen.
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Today's game between Derbyshire and Yorkshire is also sold out.

Whatever one's views on the rights and wrongs of the domestic scheduling as a whole, it's already evident that a high summer block is what is best for this competition in every way and given decent weather, the total attendance record will easily be broken.

Unfortunately though this is going to create a serious issue in three years' time.

From 2020 the Blast is set to be put back to a May 22 start with the group stages ending on June 27, and reduced to 10 rounds of group matches from the current 14 in order to fit everything in around the new 'city' competition.

I can't help feeling that having acted in haste at the offer of an extra 1.3 million a year in 'free' money, the counties will now begin to repent at leisure as to what they have agreed to - being shoved off the top of the bill to being a supporting act. They will find they have been forced into a corner that they can't get out of.
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Today's game between Derbyshire and Yorkshire is also sold out.

Whatever one's views on the rights and wrongs of the domestic scheduling as a whole, it's already evident that a high summer block is what is best for this competition in every way and given decent weather, the total attendance record will easily be broken.

Unfortunately though this is going to create a serious issue in three years' time.

From 2020 the Blast is set to be put back to a May 22 start with the group stages ending on June 27, and reduced to 10 rounds of group matches from the current 14 in order to fit everything in around the new 'city' competition.

I can't help feeling that having acted in haste at the offer of an extra 1.3 million a year in 'free' money, the counties will now begin to repent at leisure as to what they have agreed to - being shoved off the top of the bill to being a supporting act. They will find they have been forced into a corner that they can't get out of.
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So after all the trumpeting about KP returning to Surrey for the T20 blast, he's not actually playing today and won't be appearing for a couple of weeks.
Ditto Junaid Khan's return for Lancs
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Today's game between Derbyshire and Yorkshire is also sold out.

Whatever one's views on the rights and wrongs of the domestic scheduling as a whole, it's already evident that a high summer block is what is best for this competition in every way and given decent weather, the total attendance record will easily be broken.

Unfortunately though this is going to create a serious issue in three years' time.

From 2020 the Blast is set to be put back to a May 22 start with the group stages ending on June 27, and reduced to 10 rounds of group matches from the current 14 in order to fit everything in around the new 'city' competition.

I can't help feeling that having acted in haste at the offer of an extra 1.3 million a year in 'free' money, the counties will now begin to repent at leisure as to what they have agreed to - being shoved off the top of the bill to being a supporting act. They will find they have been forced into a corner that they can't get out of.
One wonders whether the blast will simply whither into insignificance the way the RLODC has done.

The 1.3 million will thus not really be 1.3 million as counties will have to shore up their finances cos of the dilution effect. And doesnt the 1.3 million end after 5 years? If so then the counties have that avenue closed whilst one of their main streams of income could be reduced down to a trickle. The example of durham could well be replicated or worse. Start losing the building blocks of the structure and there could be an impact on young players coming through the system.

Unless the ECB keeps coffing up cash from the T20 windfall to the counties.
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BBC Radio commentators during the Test Match tea interval yesterday reckoned this will be the "most exciting T20 Blast in years" because ambitious county players are already eyeing the next three seasons as an "extended audition" and an opportunity to put themselves in the shop window for a tilt at the more glittering prize that starts in 2020.

There is certainly room for two T20 tournaments. The format's dominance is now too fixed and significant to be confined to a meagre five weeks while the new super league takes place, and the 18 county Blast will have a vital role as the equivalent of football's championship to the eight team Premiership.

I find that rather exciting as players bust a gut to get out of one and into the other. Some of the football I saw on TV last winter involving Newcastle and Brighton was top quality and a more compelling spectacle than a fair number of premiership games.

As for what happens in 2025 when the counties have spent their 6.5 million bribes (5 x 1.3m), I would imagine that the hand-outs currently on offer are likely to increase in line with the next round of TV tenders, which will no doubt be another step-changing advance on the eye-watering sums the ECB has just secured for the 2020-24 package.

From the excting cricket being played by England at international level and the advent of day-night Test cricket to the financial security of the county game and the recruitment of a new generation of 5-8 year olds via All-Stars Cricket, our domestic game is currently in better shape than it has been for many years.
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Ball drilled straight back at him with some power and hit him in the head.
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