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Old 13th May 2007, 14:48   #161
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The problem is that they often go into Winter Tours without any cricket behind them. In 2004 Anderson spent a lot of time 12th man and not playing much cricket. He was then completely undercooked when it came to the test at the Wanderers. He bowled well in the ODI against Pakistan and India and in the test at Mumbai because of a good season with Lancs in 2005. In 2006 he played one domestic game and was put into the Ashes team straight away which was obviously a mistake.

What Peter Moores needs to do is leave him playing for Lancs until the ODI series (unless someone else gets injured) and give Plunkett a decent run in the test side against the West Indies. After the ODI series he can reassess for the India tests when Jones may well also come into consideration. That would allow Watkinson to loan out a bowler to another county to play without being caught short.

Since this is England this is far too sensible or someone will get injured and mess this theory up!
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Old 13th May 2007, 15:03   #162
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I would only call on Anderson if there is an injury, probably to Hoggard. I would only call on Mahmood in the event of several injuries. I can't work out how many at present.
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Old 13th May 2007, 16:43   #163
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1. Cork cannot just assume he plays every game especially when a bowler like Newby is doing much better than him. He is 36 this year and is not a long term prospect. He opens the bowling but is not a strike bowler who would get 50+ wickets a season, and as an all rounder is not getting many runs either.

2. Chapple on the other hand is very handy with the bat and the team needs one old head to help the younger bowlers coming through. Chapple is 33 and I can see him playing for another four years. At 33 he is still bowling fast and in the last FPT game bowled some balls at 86/87 mph. He is also a fast scoring batsman and should be playing in both forms of the game.

3. Anderson will benefit playing county cricket and will look to cement a place the the ODI side as an opening bowler. If Hoggard is not playing for some reason there would be a place but as Hoggard is a quality bowler that hardly ever gets injured I can't see Anderson spending much time playing Test cricket in the next 3 years. He needs to develop his 20/20 bowling which is not up to standard. Needs to bowl round the wicket more to left handers and develop his batting.

4 Mahmood needs to concentrate on the four day game and start to formulate plans against batsmen rather than just try out his repetoire of slower balls. He needs to work on his fielding which is very casual. He looks like a very good fielder and has a good throw but won't kill himself to stop a boundary. There are times when he looks very sharp and other times half hearted.

5. Newby is fast and has bounce and I see him opening the bowling next season with Anderson. I also see him as a 50+ wickets a season bowler but is not ready to play the one day game yet.

6. Smith could be the bowler to go out on loan. A very good fielder and an economical bowler who could be the next all rounder for Lancs in both forms of the game. If playing needs to be a nightwatchman where he could have a chance to develop his batting. Needs to bowl about 5mph faster.

7. Hogg should play in every one day game and bat higher up the order. If he does not get the opportunties to play should move counties rather than waste his time in the 2nd XI.

4 day side - Anderson, Chapple, Newby, Mahmood, Keedy
1 day side - Anderson, Hogg, Chapple, Smith, Keedy.
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Old 13th May 2007, 16:55   #164
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3. Anderson will benefit playing county cricket and will look to cement a place the the ODI side as an opening bowler. If Hoggard is not playing for some reason there would be a place but as Hoggard is a quality bowler that hardly ever gets injured I can't see Anderson spending much time playing Test cricket in the next 3 years. He needs to develop his 20/20 bowling which is not up to standard. Needs to bowl round the wicket more to left handers and develop his batting.


4 day side - Anderson, Chapple, Newby, Mahmood, Keedy
1 day side - Anderson, Hogg, Chapple, Smith, Keedy.
An excellent analysis 1000ys as ever! Looking at the fixtures Anderson doesn't have a great chance of getting much practice in twenty20. Assuming he misses out on the 4 tests agains the West Indies he could possibly play 2 games for lancs on 22nd and 23rd of June. The two twenty20 ODI are on the 28th and 29th and the 50 over games start on the 1st. If England stick to their current selection ideas the same squad will be picked for both the twenty20 and 50 over games. However if Moores is serious about having a good go the World Cup twenty20 we could see specialists for that form and Anderson could therefore play a few more games for Lancs if not in this team.

Totally agree about needing to work on batting. He did play for Burnley at 5 or 6 when he was rehabilitating last year so I guess could play for them on the odd occasion as a batsman only. I suspect that he hasn't practised his batting much because of the broken finger. He has said he will cut down on his net bowling to reduce the risk of injury so may well consider putting more time into his batting instead.
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Old 13th May 2007, 18:07   #165
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'Anderson will begin Lancashire’s championship match with Worcestershire at Aigburth on Tuesday before travelling down to London to meet up with the rest of the squad as cover. If he is not required on Wednesday morning, he will return to feature in the remainder of the county game'.

What does this mean?

The Test starts on Thursday so to go down on Wednesday night in case a bowler is sick on Thursday morning looks to be a better idea. Then he can fly back early Thursday morning.
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Old 13th May 2007, 18:15   #166
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The ECB press release says he is on standby but can start the Championship game. By not naming him the squad they have said we aren't going to pick you unless someone is injured. I know the rules allow a player who starts a game to be withdraw to play for England and that they also allow a player left out to join a game which has already started but surely starting him them subbing him and then unsubbing him isn't quite in the rules.

As you say why travel down on Tuesday and not Wednesday which is far more logical. Here was me thinking that the ECB were developing a modicum of common sense!
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Old 13th May 2007, 20:33   #167
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This seems like needless disruption. I am tempted to say I don't see why he can't stay with Lancs the whole time, only travelling to Lord's if an injury occurs, even as late as Thursday morning. However, I guess it would be a bit unprofessional to have to start a match before one of your bowlers has arrived. In which case, I see no reason why he shouldn't just go down on Wednesday evening, hang around till the start of the match, then head straight back to the Lancs game.
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Old 13th May 2007, 21:13   #168
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This seems like needless disruption. I am tempted to say I don't see why he can't stay with Lancs the whole time, only travelling to Lord's if an injury occurs, even as late as Thursday morning. However, I guess it would be a bit unprofessional to have to start a match before one of your bowlers has arrived. In which case, I see no reason why he shouldn't just go down on Wednesday evening, hang around till the start of the match, then head straight back to the Lancs game.
Sadly looking at the weather forecast that also looks like it is going to cause another needless disruption. If Lancs aren't playing at the time then it won't cause any disruption to them. Trust me to think that him being named standby would be a nice and simple process!
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If on Wednesday they decide to go with the extra batsman instead then he needn't even go down. Fletcher liked to leave everything to the last moment but maybe Moores has a different way of doing things. The first thing I have noticed is a standby player has been named. In the past we were never told who the standby players were. They could have also announced the standby spinner, keeper and batsman so we could have seen who else was very close to selection.
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Old 13th May 2007, 22:29   #170
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I guess they traditionally would name a spare seamer as 12th man so there would be no need for a standby player. I suspect they will go with 5 bowlers this time but may drop Plunkett later in the series to accomodate Vaughan.
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Old 14th May 2007, 20:04   #171
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Lancashire Squad V Worcestershire:

Mark Chilton (cpt)
James Anderson
Glen Chapple
Dominic Cork
Steven Croft
Brad Hodge
Paul Horton
Gary Keedy
Mal Loye
Sajid Mahmood
Muttiah Muralitharan
Tom Smith
Luke Sutton

I really can't understand why Newby isn't in that squad with 14 wickets at 19.28 and Cork is with 4 wickets at 53.75.
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Old 14th May 2007, 20:15   #172
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I wanna know why Lancashire would pick Mahmood over Newby. Seriously.
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As IGHOLS appears to be otherwise engaged at the moment should I point out that Kabir is blowing Lancashire away. He is ON FIRE!
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This is quite normal that we lose the first two or three wickets to ANY bowler who opens the bowling.
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As IGHOLS appears to be otherwise engaged at the moment should I point out that Kabir is blowing Lancashire away. He is ON FIRE!
Don't worry. Looks like the inevitable rain will put him out.
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Keep it quiet. David Graveney might be watching.
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Kabir Ali in my fantasy team - sweet..
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it says Roger Sillence got the 4th on cricinfo. He has the best cricinfo profile ever btw
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/worce...yer/20191.html

I hope Brad Hodge is getting paid a lot this season, he's got his work cut out
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Another batting collapse. Another failure for Chilton. I could say at least Sutcliffe isn't playing, but things don't look any better without him.
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