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Old 5th October 2013, 13:06   #161
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your first season without winning a first-class game I believe
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Old 5th October 2013, 14:59   #162
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Yes and sadly if we don't make some serious signings then it could easily happen again. Our batting is like a deck of cards and our bowling is pretty toothless. We have an overseas captain who isn't committed to the club but no money to realistically do anything about it.
The only hope is that with some of the big earners now off the books and a profitable season we may be able to bring in 2-3 players to rebuild the youngsters shot confidence.
Although if you follow any of them on twitter they do give the impression that they don't give two tosses as they've already made it.
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Old 5th October 2013, 21:33   #163
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Yes and sadly if we don't make some serious signings then it could easily happen again. Our batting is like a deck of cards and our bowling is pretty toothless. We have an overseas captain who isn't committed to the club but no money to realistically do anything about it.
The only hope is that with some of the big earners now off the books and a profitable season we may be able to bring in 2-3 players to rebuild the youngsters shot confidence.
Although if you follow any of them on twitter they do give the impression that they don't give two tosses as they've already made it.
Agree 100%, something needs to bedone about the Sarwan situation, not likely to play many games next season, I'm hoping we cancel our deal with him and sign a good overseas batsman, an Aussie with some pedigree would be fantastic. Interesting to see what happens on the coaching front as well, nothing mentioned yet.
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Old 7th October 2013, 15:51   #164
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Although if you follow any of them on twitter they do give the impression that they don't give two tosses as they've already made it.
I think "impression" is the key word there.

From what I have seen of county cricketers' Twitter posts, I think most of them use it as they would Facebook to exchange banter / pictures of them horsing around, rather than a public/PR face.

Why they choose to do this through a publicly-viewable form of social media I don't know. I am not even sure if all of them realise that anyone can read these tweets, and even if they do I think that a lot of them lack an awareness that what they are tweeting might be read and analysed by people outside their personal circle (there have already been some cricketer-related Twitter incidents that have shown a shocking lack of awareness of how it works).

When they tweet it seems to be in their leisure time; in the main it's light-hearted and I don't think you are going to see them wringing their hands over a defeat. Overall, I wouldn't read too much into what they post. But that someone might is a peril of being involved such a public form of social media.
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Old 7th October 2013, 16:02   #165
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My experience of twitter with players is just a communication thing between mates...maybe pick up a well done from the proles on the way, like when they go for an ice cream at the ground.
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Old 7th October 2013, 22:36   #166
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I'm aware that the guys have been given a dressing down over their use of social media. They had a team meeting and a slide was shown with a picture of a players friend on the toilet. When asked why, the answer was 'because it's funny'. Now I like toilet humour (excuse the pun) and don't have too much of an issue with FB as it can be made private. But twitter I have an issue with.
I have no problem with the players going out and letting their hair down, but when you've been spanked by an innings for the 5th match on the trot you should probably be a little more subtle about it. If they're going to big up their nights out on the lash on social media sites, they've got to follow it up with performances.
Wayne White was a sod for it, tweeting at lunch, between innings and even during an innings if he wasn't batting. Josh Cobb has also been arguing with a fan which would be funny were it not so cringe worthy.
And Ollie Freckingham had a photo posted of him drinking an apple juice at the end of season p*ss up. Interesting when you consider that the person taking the mick has seen his career go backwards while Ollie has had a half decent season in his first year as a pro. He may have been on the razz but if so, at least he managed to keep it hidden.
They just seem to need a hell of a lot of PR help or advise on what they should & shouldn't be doing.
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Old 8th October 2013, 09:11   #167
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They just seem to need a hell of a lot of PR help or advise on what they should & shouldn't be doing.
Thanks for a very interesting post.

Personally I've said it before, I really think that if there was ever an ideal case for a club needing a fresh face to come in from the outside to shake things up, then Leicestershire is it.
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Old 8th October 2013, 10:25   #168
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Paul Smith should take over, Davids brother.lol.Now that would liven things up!
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Old 8th October 2013, 22:20   #169
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In hindsight the whole Smith - Davidson affair was the worst thing that could have happened to us. We had 2 strong characters with massive egos and probably could have moved forward with one of them but ended up going from 2 to 0 finishing with nice guys in charge.
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Old 9th October 2013, 08:30   #170
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In hindsight the whole Smith - Davidson affair was the worst thing that could have happened to us. We had 2 strong characters with massive egos and probably could have moved forward with one of them but ended up going from 2 to 0 finishing with nice guys in charge.
I really thought we could've gone somewhere under David Smith, he's not the most likeable guy but he does a good job, like he has done at Northants now. On the twitter debate, I'm sick of seeing the players talk about drinking and girls.

On the night before the last day of the season they were talking about the drinks they've got waiting for them after the game, they got rolled over by Hampshire and within 15-20 mins they were putting pics of them drinking on twitter, if they want to make a career playing cricket they need to get their acts together.

Cobb, Buck and Smith are always giving it the big talk, next season it's about time they have a good year and show everyone why we've kept faith in them for this long.
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Old 9th October 2013, 09:04   #171
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I took a look at the national batting averages yesterday.

Matt Boyce seems to have got quite a lot of stick on the Leicestershire message board (what little activity there is on it) but he scored 677 at 30.77 - not spectacular of course, but far better than many (actually a better average than Collingwood and Trescothick in 2013), and in effect 3rd in Leicestershire's batting average. That's what he has been now for the past 6 seasons - a 700@30 man - and at least someone like him can bring a bit of stability to a fragile batting order. But like any batsman, he needs some support. Plus he clearly is a mature, sensible guy.

Josh Cobb and Michael Thornley on the other hand, were really bad cases 258@14 and 282@16 respectively, both playing a lot. You simply can't carry two top order players with batting performances akin to a No 9 in the side. Cobb did well in 2012, but prior to that (going back in time) he's averaged 12, 13 and 19 - just way off acceptable.

Leicestershire desperately need to add some steel to their side in all areas.
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According to a news release today, it looks as if Leicestershire are sticking with the coaching set-up as it is. So be it.

These are the players I would look to recruit:

Zander de Bruyn - this is the guy I would build the "new" team around. Solid coming in at 5 and will pick up an old ball and bowl 15 overs when the going is tough. A true pro who will play all day for you. Just the kind of player needed to lift the dressing room.

Jon Lewis and Charlie Shreck - these two can use their old heads to get the bowling attack back on track.

Plus A.N. Other experienced top-order batsman.

Maybe an initial reaction to this would be why recruit these "pensioners"? But the team has to first and foremost be made competitive again. Adding some ex-Uni/2nd XI guys from elsewhere won't fix the problem. They'd just finish bottom of the table again.
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Old 9th October 2013, 13:13   #173
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According to a news release today, it looks as if Leicestershire are sticking with the coaching set-up as it is. So be it.

These are the players I would look to recruit:

Zander de Bruyn - this is the guy I would build the "new" team around. Solid coming in at 5 and will pick up an old ball and bowl 15 overs when the going is tough. A true pro who will play all day for you. Just the kind of player needed to lift the dressing room.

Jon Lewis and Charlie Shreck - these two can use their old heads to get the bowling attack back on track.

Plus A.N. Other experienced top-order batsman.

Maybe an initial reaction to this would be why recruit these "pensioners"? But the team has to first and foremost be made competitive again. Adding some ex-Uni/2nd XI guys from elsewhere won't fix the problem. They'd just finish bottom of the table again.
Strange that he is released after being Kents leading CC wicket taker in each of his 2 years
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Old 9th October 2013, 13:51   #174
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Heard we are looking to sign Corey Collymore to replace Hoggy
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According to a news release today, it looks as if Leicestershire are sticking with the coaching set-up as it is. So be it.

These are the players I would look to recruit:

Zander de Bruyn - this is the guy I would build the "new" team around. Solid coming in at 5 and will pick up an old ball and bowl 15 overs when the going is tough. A true pro who will play all day for you. Just the kind of player needed to lift the dressing room.

Jon Lewis and Charlie Shreck - these two can use their old heads to get the bowling attack back on track.

Plus A.N. Other experienced top-order batsman.

Maybe an initial reaction to this would be why recruit these "pensioners"? But the team has to first and foremost be made competitive again. Adding some ex-Uni/2nd XI guys from elsewhere won't fix the problem. They'd just finish bottom of the table again.
I'd have these 3 here in a heartbeat, for other counties you can call them pensioners for us they'd be absolutely key signings, we have to recruit well for next season and you can't go wrong with these guys, also if we're looking at Corey Collymore I'd have him here too. All 4 players mentioned are definitely worth a look at and they have more pedigree then the likes of Robbie Williams and Anthony Ireland, who we recruited this time last year.
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I'd like to take 2 out of 3 from Shreck, Collymore & Lewis if they showed any sign of interest. But could we afford them? You'd certainly hope so with the exit of big earners such as Hoggard & Henderson.
De Bruyn, yes please and as mentioned before a South African or Aussie batsmen with a bit of experience.
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I see MCC Young Cricketers have given a professional contract to Janak Valand, who has been playing in the Leicester Premier League. He fought off a lot of competition to be selected.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/v...cc-yc-contract

Evidently never picked up on Leicestershire's radar?
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It seems the money is still tight despite Hoggard's big wage being off the bill and Henderson retiring. The club should break even this year which is good after making significant financial losses last year. They are also looking to recruit an experienced batsman and bowler, targets have been identified, all deals are budget permitting.
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I see MCC Young Cricketers have given a professional contract to Janak Valand, who has been playing in the Leicester Premier League. He fought off a lot of competition to be selected.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/v...cc-yc-contract

Evidently never picked up on Leicestershire's radar?
Never heard of him. When the Leicester Mercury reports on the local league games this guys rarely gets mentioned. Ivanhoe did come 3rd in the club league though so he must be part of a decent team.
Samit Patel is originally from Leicester and his dad still plays for one of the local clubs so if Valand is any good he wouldn't be the first person to be missed by us.
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QUARTET SIGN ON FOR MORE (via leicestershireccc.co.uk)

Leicestershire CCC is pleased to announce that four players have signed contract extensions at Grace Road.

Anthony Ireland, Angus Robson and Tom Wells have agreed one-year extensions to keep them at the Club until at least the end of the 2014 season.
James Sykes has penned a new two-year deal and will therefore remain at Leicestershire until at least the end of the 2015 campaign.
Ireland made a massive impact in the FL t20 competition, the seamer finishing as leading wicket-taker with 15 victims at 15.73 and his economy was just over seven. He picked up two four-wicket hauls that led to fine victories against Durham and Derbyshire.

Ireland was also a key part of the YB40 side, and it was a great shame that injuries restricted his appearances in first-class cricket. The bowler is a popular figure at Grace Road and his experience will again be invaluable to Leicestershire’s young seam attack.
Sykes, Robson and Wells all made their Leicestershire first-class debuts in 2013 and showed great promise. Sykes and Wells were also involved in YB40 and FL t20 matches.

Slow left armer Sykes picked up a four-wicket haul on his Championship bow at Essex and generally gained lots of valuable experience after Jigar Naik suffered an unfortunate injury. Sykes will now spend the winter alongside Ned Eckersley at the Darren Lehmann Academy in Adelaide as he continues his development.
Robson made a best score of 49 in just his second bat at first-class level. The opener places a high value on his wicket, and was given an opportunity after an excellent 2013 campaign for the Second XI.

All-rounder Wells made a big impression after coming into the side. The youngster made three quickfire contributions in YB40 without being dismissed – he scored 88 runs off just 43 balls in those innings. Wells then made a fantastic 82 against Hampshire in the LV=CC on the final day of the season.
With Ben Raine also signing a deal for the 2014, Leicestershire’s squad is already taking shape. The Club will now continue to look for experienced players to back up the outstanding young talent we have at Grace Road.
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