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Old 4th August 2008, 13:51   #21
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Starting with this....I'd like to share how deeply proud I am that we have NO Kolpak players and only one overseas player...this makes us morally superior and thats why we are hosting the first ashes test next year.
I'm pretty sure it's due to political correctness or something that you're hosting the first Ashes Test next year.

I mean, let's be honest here, Cardiff Council or Welsh Government helped with funding, which comes out of all of the UK taxpayers pockets.
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Old 4th August 2008, 13:53   #22
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I'm pretty sure it's due to political correctness or something that you're hosting the first Ashes Test next year.

I mean, let's be honest here, Cardiff Council or Welsh Government helped with funding, which comes out of all of the UK taxpayers pockets.
Nothing to do with it. All about money
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I'm pretty sure it's due to political correctness or something that you're hosting the first Ashes Test next year.

I mean, let's be honest here, Cardiff Council or Welsh Government helped with funding, which comes out of all of the UK taxpayers pockets.
Political correctness? That is possibly the stupidest thing you've written and it's not as if I'm struggling for nominees.

It's all about money.
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Political correctness? That is possibly the stupidest thing you've written and it's not as if I'm struggling for nominees.

It's all about money.
Wel okay then, politics. I cannot believe for one moment that it is for cricketing reasons however.
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Wel okay then, politics. I cannot believe for one moment that it is for cricketing reasons however.
No. Just money.
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I for one am excited though to have an Ashes test on my doorstep no matter how it came about. I've already scoped out a tree by the river and am building a tree house where I can watch it next year.
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Harris bowling with Dizzy can only help him as well. I've got high hopes for that young man.
Certainly, a highest score of 81* in the few matches he has played and a bowling average of around about 30. I suppose that's the advantage of having someone like Gillespie there, he's experience is invaluable, a proper overseas player if you like.
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Here's one thing however.

It will onyl hold 15,000. Similar to or less than most grounds. How on earth does money come into it when it holds less than OT, Edgbaston, Durham etc?
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Here's one thing however.

It will onyl hold 15,000. Similar to or less than most grounds. How on earth does money come into it when it holds less than OT, Edgbaston, Durham etc?
Sigh. Counties bid for test matches - basically this consists of guaranteeing an amount to the ECB for the right to hold a test.

Glamorgan bid/guaranteed to pay the ECB 3.4 million pounds.

For contrast, Headingley bid 800,000.

It isnt related to the size of grounds but tyo the size of bid
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Wel okay then, politics. I cannot believe for one moment that it is for cricketing reasons however.
Well I'm not sure it was cricketing reasons either, but was the olympics brought to London purely on sporting reasons? Cardiff has shown in recent history to be excellent at hosting international events. There was nothing but positivity about the way the millenium stadium hosted the FA cup finals.

When selecting a venue i imagine there is a whole lot of factors to be considered; quality of stadium and facilities, transport links, security, logisitics and i think most importantly the oppurtunity it provides for the people of south wales to watch test match cricket. I think people forget its the England AND WALES cricket board and they have a responsibilty to provide cricket to people all over the country. For me the bigger issue is hosting 3 tests a year in London!
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Well I'm not sure it was cricketing reasons either, but was the olympics brought to London purely on sporting reasons? Cardiff has shown in recent history to be excellent at hosting international events. There was nothing but positivity about the way the millenium stadium hosted the FA cup finals.

When selecting a venue i imagine there is a whole lot of factors to be considered; quality of stadium and facilities, transport links, security, logisitics and i think most importantly the oppurtunity it provides for the people of south wales to watch test match cricket. I think people forget its the England AND WALES cricket board and they have a responsibilty to provide cricket to people all over the country. For me the bigger issue is hosting 3 tests a year in London!
Seconded.

As Kim has said it's all about the money. Cardiff will do a good job, but the inner wranglings at the ECB should be looked into. Am I right in thinking hints have been dropped to places like the Rose Bowl and Chester-le-Street that if they develop their grounds in certain ways then they are more likely to get certain matches? If this is the case and then they decide to ignore it for the all mighty pound then that needs looking into, especially as counties aren't made of money.

Except Gloucestershire...
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Well I'm not sure it was cricketing reasons either, but was the olympics brought to London purely on sporting reasons? Cardiff has shown in recent history to be excellent at hosting international events. There was nothing but positivity about the way the millenium stadium hosted the FA cup finals.
I'll agree with that point. I went to the Millennium a number of times when play off finals and LDV finals etc were hosted there and it was good. It's a great ground.

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Hmm true, but South Wales isn't truly a cricketing hotbed is it? It is the England and Wales Cricket Board so they do have a right to watch it. And I agree about the 3 out of 7 Tests in London as well, that is one too many.

However, the West Country doesn't have a Test ground, I mean the North has 2, the North East one, London 2, when Hampshire gets it's first Test South Central one, East Midlands, West Midlands and now Wales.

Region that misses out? The South West.
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Well you'd hope not. But the ECB seems to be driven by money. They do a lot of good things, for example the coaching side of it is excellent. The Level 1course i went on was streets ahead of courses i've been on in Athletics, Football and Rugby.

However, the compromise is that you have a significantly greater chance watch live international cricket if you live in london or are fortunate enough to have sky.

The ECB right now needs strong leadership and clear, justified decision making as times are changing massively. Maybe they should be more transparent with their dealings.
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I'll agree with that point. I went to the Millennium a number of times when play off finals and LDV finals etc were hosted there and it was good. It's a great ground.



Hmm true, but South Wales isn't truly a cricketing hotbed is it? It is the England and Wales Cricket Board so they do have a right to watch it. And I agree about the 3 out of 7 Tests in London as well, that is one too many.

However, the West Country doesn't have a Test ground, I mean the North has 2, the North East one, London 2, when Hampshire gets it's first Test South Central one, East Midlands, West Midlands and now Wales.

Region that misses out? The South West.
Reason it misses out? They're all to busy drinking cider and getting blackbirds out of yon Worzel tree to care... also money.
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Reason it misses out? They're all to busy drinking cider and getting blackbirds out of yon Worzel tree to care... also money.
No, we're just an ignored region by the powers that be generally, whether it be for many things and Bristol especially.

I mean, we are the capital of South West England no less!
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No, we're just an ignored region by the powers that be generally, whether it be for many things and Bristol especially.

I mean, we are the capital of South West England no less!
Which is one of the many reasons the South West of England is in trouble.

Anyway this is all moot because when the ECB regionalise everybody you'll be supporting a team that plays in Cardiff anyway. We've got a test standard ground here don'tcha know.
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I'll agree with that point. I went to the Millennium a number of times when play off finals and LDV finals etc were hosted there and it was good. It's a great ground.



Hmm true, but South Wales isn't truly a cricketing hotbed is it? It is the England and Wales Cricket Board so they do have a right to watch it. And I agree about the 3 out of 7 Tests in London as well, that is one too many.

However, the West Country doesn't have a Test ground, I mean the North has 2, the North East one, London 2, when Hampshire gets it's first Test South Central one, East Midlands, West Midlands and now Wales.

Region that misses out? The South West.
I guess in an ideal world you'd have a test in each region. 1 each for london, south west, south east, wales, central, north west an north east. But, i guess each touring team wants to play at lords. On saying that the BCCI are sending us out to whatever ground they feel like.

And no....its probably only a hot bed for rugby but i'm sure theres plenty of cricket fans there. That in fact has been evident in the support when there has been ODI's held there.
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Which is one of the many reasons the South West of England is in trouble.

Anyway this is all moot because when the ECB regionalise everybody you'll be supporting a team that plays in Cardiff anyway. We've got a test standard ground here don'tcha know.
I won't be supporting it because of my regional identiy being eroded if that happens. I'll be a hypocrite then because I will still go to the Bristol City v Cardiff games as well as other games and join in with all the songs as I do now.
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I guess in an ideal world you'd have a test in each region. 1 each for london, south west, south east, wales, central, north west an north east. But, i guess each touring team wants to play at lords. On saying that the BCCI are sending us out to whatever ground they feel like.

And no....its probably only a hot bed for rugby but i'm sure theres plenty of cricket fans there. That in fact has been evident in the support when there has been ODI's held there.
Well, one game or the rotation system.

It is manifestly WRONG that we in the West Country miss out to everywhere else in this instance.

Do ODIs in Cardiff sell out annually then? They do in Bristol.
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From memory yes, even Australia V Bangladesh. i can't find statistics to back this up though.
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