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Old 21st January 2018, 19:15   #41
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I have a worry that Archer will become too much of a league commodity, touring across the various t20 leagues and lose his development in the longer form. England need a genuine quick bowler for their test side more than anything.
You could also argue as many seemed to during the ashes that he'll miss enough of the county season for his pace not to be diminished by county coaching and too many miles in his legs.
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Old 22nd January 2018, 13:52   #42
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There is a huge part of me that wishes he would just go and tear it up for the West Indies.

But if he wants to wait and qualify for England, that's his prerogative.
Yes selfishly hed be great for England but him leading the WI attack would be a great sight. Plus hed boost their batting! Guess the issue with that is that he would have to play domestic cricket back over there to be available for selection which I cant imagine is on his mind.
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Old 22nd January 2018, 16:09   #43
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You could also argue as many seemed to during the ashes that he'll miss enough of the county season for his pace not to be diminished by county coaching and too many miles in his legs.
Maybe but pace is just one aspect. To bowl well in the longer format, you have to learn how to main line and length, not go to variations too quickly, set up batsmen over a period of 4 or 5 or more overs, as opposed to 2 or 3 and extend your fitness. All of that is lost in the t20 format.

A prime example would be Indian batsmen who have become a terrific t20/ODI exponent but have often lacked the ability to build innings like a Tendulkar or Dravid for example.

On top of all that, isn't Archer some 5 years away from qualifying for England? Hopefully he has lots of fc cricket under his belt by that time...or maybe just play for the windies.
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Old 22nd January 2018, 16:22   #44
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Maybe but pace is just one aspect. To bowl well in the longer format, you have to learn how to main line and length, not go to variations too quickly, set up batsmen over a period of 4 or 5 or more overs, as opposed to 2 or 3 and extend your fitness. All of that is lost in the t20 format.

A prime example would be Indian batsmen who have become a terrific t20/ODI exponent but have often lacked the ability to build innings like a Tendulkar or Dravid for example.

On top of all that, isn't Archer some 5 years away from qualifying for England? Hopefully he has lots of fc cricket under his belt by that time...or maybe just play for the windies.
As I said he'll still get to play the second half of the county season which isn't much difference in number of F/C games as most overseas players get anyway.
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Old 25th January 2018, 18:49   #45
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His bouncer to Klinger the other day was brutal. Smashed his helmet to pieces. https://mobile.twitter.com/SussexCCC...er%3Fpage%3D14
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Old 27th January 2018, 11:46   #46
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His bouncer to Klinger the other day was brutal. Smashed his helmet to pieces. https://mobile.twitter.com/SussexCCC...er%3Fpage%3D14
Another freak accident no doubt.

He certainly has a good arm. Would excite baseball scouts.
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Old 27th January 2018, 18:09   #47
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Teaming up with Stokes in the IPL after an 800k deal.
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Old 28th January 2018, 10:51   #48
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Big issue may be looming for Jofra Archer, Sussex and England. If he is picked up in PSL replacement draft tomorrow, he could spend so much time outside UK this winter (BPL, Big Bash, PSL, IPL) that he fails to meet 210 days a year residential requirement to qualify for England
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Old 28th January 2018, 11:28   #49
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Worth noting this interesting Tweet:
IPL doesn't matter for this years residency requirement as the "year" ends on 31st March. PSL would come in though I guess his agent should be making sure he spends 210 days in England.
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IPL doesn't matter for this years residency requirement as the "year" ends on 31st March. PSL would come in though I guess his agent should be making sure he spends 210 days in England.
Surely though having played the Big Bash, Bangladesh league and the IPL one after the other he'd be in danger of missing this year's target. To be honest he's better taking a million dollars when he can than wait 5 more years to possibly get a central contract.
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Old 28th January 2018, 18:04   #51
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Surely though having played the Big Bash, Bangladesh league and the IPL one after the other he'd be in danger of missing this year's target. To be honest he's better taking a million dollars when he can than wait 5 more years to possibly get a central contract.
The 2018 IPL doesn't count towards this years quota as it starts in April, although if they want him to attend warm up etc it could eat in to it slightly.

At a rough guess.
BBL = 2 months with 2 weeks warm up.
BPL = 6 weeks with a weeks warm up.
HK6 = 2 weeks with a weeks warm up.

So that's roughly 4 months in this year plus a week warm up for the IPL he should be fine but wouldn't be able to fit in the PSL as well as that would take him up to 5 months although at a push if he hasn't been abroad for other things like Sussex warm weather training etc he might be able to squeeze it in.

Next year he'd probably only be able to play the IPL and one other (plus maybe the HK6 as it's so short) if he doesn't want to be cutting it close and giving himself a week or two for a holiday somewhere other than Margate :-)
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Old 29th January 2018, 17:38   #52
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The 2018 IPL doesn't count towards this years quota as it starts in April, although if they want him to attend warm up etc it could eat in to it slightly.

At a rough guess.
BBL = 2 months with 2 weeks warm up.
BPL = 6 weeks with a weeks warm up.
HK6 = 2 weeks with a weeks warm up.

So that's roughly 4 months in this year plus a week warm up for the IPL he should be fine but wouldn't be able to fit in the PSL as well as that would take him up to 5 months although at a push if he hasn't been abroad for other things like Sussex warm weather training etc he might be able to squeeze it in.

Next year he'd probably only be able to play the IPL and one other (plus maybe the HK6 as it's so short) if he doesn't want to be cutting it close and giving himself a week or two for a holiday somewhere other than Margate :-)
Yes you're right, I got myself in a muddle as to when the PSL and IPL were.
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Do you think they'd actually check this? Could be highly embarrassing to discover that the trip to The Seychelles say put you down to just 207 days in England and cost you the residency requirement.
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Old 30th January 2018, 22:08   #54
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Do you think they'd actually check this? Could be highly embarrassing to discover that the trip to The Seychelles say put you down to just 207 days in England and cost you the residency requirement.
Well you'd think that players would have an agent/lawyer or even an accountant responsible for their contracts and you'd hope that they'd be on top of things like this. If I can find it with a 5min browse of the ECB website, you'd hope they could as well!

It's not specific to cricketers I mean theirs rules that have to be followed to ensure you're not liable for personal taxation in a country and tax "exiles" will have people to ensure they fall outside/inside of residency requirements.

Having said that these are ECB rules that they could overturn under "exceptional circumstances", maybe that means they could overturn it for an exceptional player :-)
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Old 31st January 2018, 18:40   #55
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According to the BBC Archer is on top of the calculation:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42887129
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According to the BBC Archer is on top of the calculation:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42887129
Does being called an all rounder speed up the process?
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The ECB may be preparing to scrap its seven-year qualification rule in order to accelerate the availability of Jofra Archer, the exciting young Barbados-born all-rounder who under existing regulations will not be eligible to play for England until 2022.
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The ECB may be preparing to scrap its seven-year qualification rule in order to accelerate the availability of Jofra Archer, the exciting young Barbados-born all-rounder who under existing regulations will not be eligible to play for England until 2022.
Epic bantz from the ECB. Quick, there's someone good we could do with, change the rules!
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The ECB is considering changing its regulations on residency qualification to allow Jofra Archer to be eligible for the Ashes next summer, reports @legsidelizzy
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