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Old 20th May 2016, 20:10   #61
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Do we know what Andy Flowers' role is yet?
He's back(stabber) room staff
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Old 20th May 2016, 23:25   #62
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Chief coach, assistant chief coach, batting coach, fast bowling coach, medium pace bowling coach, spin bowling coach, close fielding coach, deep fielder coach, body and conditioning specialist + assistant, psychologist, faith consultants (3). media consultant, 13th man, brown noser, deputy brown noser.
Seriously it's a scandal that so many back room staff are employed. As what they do all day, I expect they're checking on their inflated bank balances.


The media person wasn't there. She must have had a day off. Her job is accompany a player to a press conference and stand there in case they ask any awkward questions. She is always in the nets with the team Nothing else to do I suppose. The team manager Phil Neale could do her job. It takes about 10 mins.
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Old 21st May 2016, 14:50   #63
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I don't really care how big the backroom staff is, it seems a bit of an easy dig whenever we lose that the players are mollycoddled from the likes of Beefy and Boycott. If they think they need them all and can afford it, then so be it.
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I would think the main ones are Bayliss, Farbrace, Gibson, Taylor and Ramprakash. No harm in having more people behind the scenes if it improves the performance of the team.
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When England were on a tour once they needed 3 coaches for the backroom staff. Numbered about 90.
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Have whatever amount you want but on match days only Farbrace, Bayliss, Gibson and a couple of masseurs and a physio.
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Do we know what Andy Flowers' role is yet?
Chief Jeremy Hunt.
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Old 21st May 2016, 17:28   #68
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The media person wasn't there. She must have had a day off. Her job is accompany a player to a press conference and stand there in case they ask any awkward questions. She is always in the nets with the team Nothing else to do I suppose. The team manager Phil Neale could do her job. It takes about 10 mins.
If you see pictures of the media person at the nets that would imply that the media are present, so seems entirely sensible that she would also need to be there.
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Do we know what Andy Flowers' role is yet?
He does something at Loughborough developing young players.
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The female media person looks like she has gone. We now have a man.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjttNNzXEAAeeIz.jpg

The difference is that he sits of the balcony with the players whereas the female didn't.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2...le-ashes-tour/

I would have thought Farbrace would be the next in line. So much more experience.
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I would have thought Farbrace would be the next in line. So much more experience.
Inferior throwdown technique though ...
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Inferior throwdown technique though ...
England haven't got a fielding coach for Tests. Bayliss has taken over that role but now we can say we have someone decent. Chris Taylor is the one day fielding coach.
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I'm still not convinced what a fielding coach can really do. Fielding is largely about athleticism and concentration, both of which aren't easy to coach and you're slightly hamstrung by the fact that your specialist batsmen and bowlers aren't always the best in those regards.
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I'm still not convinced what a fielding coach can really do. Fielding is largely about athleticism and concentration, both of which aren't easy to coach and you're slightly hamstrung by the fact that your specialist batsmen and bowlers aren't always the best in those regards.
Disagree with this.

Fielding is the area of the game (along with tailend batting) that has improved most in what I would call the professional era. That suggests that if you work on it you'll get better.
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Disagree with this.

Fielding is the area of the game (along with tailend batting) that has improved most in what I would call the professional era. That suggests that if you work on it you'll get better.
Only amongst those who don't field in gloves.
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Only amongst those who don't field in gloves.
That's wicketkeeping rather than fielding though.
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Disagree with this.

Fielding is the area of the game (along with tailend batting) that has improved most in what I would call the professional era. That suggests that if you work on it you'll get better.
I think it's plateaued though. A lot of the improvement was innovated by that baseball coach that the Australians had in the 00s, with relay throws, more sliding, cutting down the angles and positioning slightly of traditional fielding places and everyone has taken that almost to the limit. The actual basics like slip fielding should be pretty much the same and coached into cricketers when they come through the county game. Richie Benaud used to say slip fielding is the one thing that has got worse over time and Athers says he doesn't understand taking 100 catches and dropping 10 when he'd feel more confident going into a match just taking 10 catches in a row, then putting his feet up.
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I think it's plateaued though. A lot of the improvement was innovated by that baseball coach that the Australians had in the 00s, with relay throws, more sliding, cutting down the angles and positioning slightly of traditional fielding places and everyone has taken that almost to the limit. The actual basics like slip fielding should be pretty much the same and coached into cricketers when they come through the county game. Richie Benaud used to say slip fielding is the one thing that has got worse over time and Athers says he doesn't understand taking 100 catches and dropping 10 when he'd feel more confident going into a match just taking 10 catches in a row, then putting his feet up.
Sure, 10 catches in a row before the start of play, but that's not when the heavy lifting is done in the same way that you're not telling a batsman to change his technique the morning of a match.
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I'm really sceptical of stories of how catching was better in this or that era. There have always been outstanding fielders, of course, partly because the same hand eye coordination that makes an excellent batsman overlaps a great deal with that making a great catcher but I'd expect the overall standard to have risen in the professional era and those harking back to previous years will almost certainly be forgetting the dollies dropped in their preferred time, in favour of the odd screamer taken.
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