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Old 17th July 2007, 23:46   #141
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There is little point in playing 2 SLA's in the same side when the two options are a very good one (Panesar) and a not so good one (Keedy). especially as Keedy is an out and out non-fielder, non-batter. However, in terms of the best spin bowlers available after Panesar, Keedy would probably be next in line as far as left-armers are concerned. Given the paucity of available talent I would suggest selecting on form. From the table above that looks like Swann and Keedy.

As for the earlier point about too much ODI cricket affecting spinners: Shastri especially. and Emburey have both expressed how increasingly difficult they found bowling in Tests after so much defensive bowling in the one day game.
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Old 18th July 2007, 09:36   #142
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He's been back from injury for ages. Averaging nearly 50 with the ball
That one did pass under my radar, a very low key return indeed.
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Old 19th July 2007, 14:21   #143
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I wonder if they would go for Swann, an offie with "attitude" whose not done badly and can hold a bat the right way as well as being mobile in the field?
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Old 19th July 2007, 14:25   #144
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I wonder if they would go for Swann, an offie with "attitude" whose not done badly and can hold a bat the right way as well as being mobile in the field?
Sounds like Loudon mark 2
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Old 19th July 2007, 14:47   #145
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Sounds like Loudon mark 2
I think Swann is comfortably a better bowler than Loudon.
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Old 19th July 2007, 17:03   #146
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I think Swann is comfortably a better bowler than Loudon.
For sure but he's still an utter country mile away from being test class.
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Old 19th July 2007, 17:15   #147
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I think Swann is comfortably a better bowler than Loudon.
Poor old Alex has taken 4 wickets at 76 each this year. He doesnt seem to know if hes coming or going. Hes a specialist batsman at the momnet. Swann, as FS says, isnt test class - but is an ass.
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Old 20th July 2007, 08:47   #148
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Poor old Alex has taken 4 wickets at 76 each this year. He doesnt seem to know if hes coming or going. Hes a specialist batsman at the momnet. Swann, as FS says, isnt test class - but is an ass.
That is true I remember creamy's tale about Swann sticking his spinning finger in urine before he comes onto bowl!
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Old 20th July 2007, 08:55   #149
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His own I hope?
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Old 20th July 2007, 16:12   #150
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Rashid 42* against Surrey today. Yorks 200/8.
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Old 21st July 2007, 11:43   #151
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Bringing the debate onto this thread (although also mentioned on Yorks thread).

Rashid picked for England U19 and missing 2 or 3 championship matches for Yorks. Moxon spitting feathers.

Really interesting question this throws up is that although U19 cricket is important, but Rashid actually get more valuable experience in the Championship?
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he played under 19 cricket last year, there's no need to pick him again this summer. Especially as he's probably on the verge of going on a full tour this winter, he needs as many First Class overs as possible
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Old 21st July 2007, 13:14   #153
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he played under 19 cricket last year, there's no need to pick him again this summer. Especially as he's probably on the verge of going on a full tour this winter, he needs as many First Class overs as possible
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Old 21st July 2007, 15:25   #154
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The powers that be have seen sense and decided that he can play for Yorkshire instead.
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Old 21st July 2007, 15:34   #155
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Yep - the official press release from the ECB has just confirmed the squad. And no Rashid. Obviously the counties are listened to (sometimes).
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Common sense has prevailed for a change.
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Old 21st July 2007, 15:41   #157
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Pretty obvious that, and thankful that the right decision being made. Their was a lot of unhappy people that Bresnan and Rashid missed a game for Yorks for the England Lions match, but that really would have taken the biscuit.
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I think that Lions game was different though, because the standard of the opposition was good it played a useful part in the players' development.
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I think that Lions game was different though, because the standard of the opposition was good it played a useful part in the players' development.


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I think that Lions game was different though, because the standard of the opposition was good it played a useful part in the players' development.
It was, that's why I disagreed with them.
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