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View Poll Results: Rate his action's similarity to Murali's from the given options
Action has zero similarity to Murali's action 1 50.00%
Somewhat similar to Murali's action 0 0%
Quite similar to Murali's action 0 0%
Almost similar to Murali's action with a minute difference 0 0%
The action completely resembles that of Murali 1 50.00%
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Old 28th March 2017, 19:55   #1
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This Indian Guy Bowls/Spins Like The Legendary Muralitharan, Batsmen Dancing!!

Has anyone seen this? I’ve NEVER seen someone bowl like Muralitharan (let alone spin), considering his unique bowling action.
This is just INCREDIBLE! See for yourself and share your thoughts.
Is this the 2nd coming of Murali?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMxi5Xxam1g


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Old 30th March 2017, 16:20   #2
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Didn't see too many problems with it, really.
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Old 31st March 2017, 10:59   #3
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Didn't understand sorry. Could you be more specific? Thanks
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Old 31st March 2017, 11:22   #4
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OK, hope this helps. In the few seconds I watched the clip, I didn't see any straightening of the arm in the delivery action, or at least none exceeding that allowed by the ICC following the Muralitharan controversy.

So, in that regard, I see very little similarity between the actions.

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Old 31st March 2017, 11:32   #5
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All that it resembles for me is the approach to the crease, holding of the ball in his left hand until entering his delivery stride, but the action is nothing like Muralis and also if that is how slowly he bowls through the air, I can't see him getting out any half serious batsman worth their salt.
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Old 1st April 2017, 14:11   #6
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OK, hope this helps. In the few seconds I watched the clip, I didn't see any straightening of the arm in the delivery action, or at least none exceeding that allowed by the ICC following the Muralitharan controversy.

So, in that regard, I see very little similarity between the actions.
Yup correct!
His arm isn't bent like Murali, there's some difference all right
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Old 1st April 2017, 14:14   #7
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All that it resembles for me is the approach to the crease, holding of the ball in his left hand until entering his delivery stride, but the action is nothing like Muralis and also if that is how slowly he bowls through the air, I can't see him getting out any half serious batsman worth their salt.
Imo its about how much the ball turns, and if it does turn good (with a good placement on the pitch ) then speed doesn't matter much
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Imo its about how much the ball turns, and if it does turn good (with a good placement on the pitch ) then speed doesn't matter much
That's just not true, I'm afraid. The exact same ball at say 50mph is vastly more threatening than in the low 40s.
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That's just not true, I'm afraid. The exact same ball at say 50mph is vastly more threatening than in the low 40s.
Agreed. But I would like to add one point here. Yup its more threatening than a slower one, but many a time it happens that the pace of the ball ends up helping the batsman time the shot better, 'cause the pace has already taken away a little from the spin. You may have seen Shahid Afridi and Kumble's bowling where their pace almost always outdid the spin and their deliveries ended up going amost straight.
What I'm trying to state here is having a paced spin won't always help
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Agreed. But I would like to add one point here. Yup its more threatening than a slower one, but many a time it happens that the pace of the ball ends up helping the batsman time the shot better, 'cause the pace has already taken away a little from the spin. You may have seen Shahid Afridi and Kumble's bowling where their pace almost always outdid the spin and their deliveries ended up going amost straight.
What I'm trying to state here is having a paced spin won't always help
I don't think we are saying that it has to be as quick as the two bowlers you mention but it looks comfortably slower than 50 mph (circa 80kph) and that good batsman have more than enough time to react.
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Agreed. But I would like to add one point here. Yup its more threatening than a slower one, but many a time it happens that the pace of the ball ends up helping the batsman time the shot better, 'cause the pace has already taken away a little from the spin. You may have seen Shahid Afridi and Kumble's bowling where their pace almost always outdid the spin and their deliveries ended up going amost straight.
What I'm trying to state here is having a paced spin won't always help
I think you are confusing between a faster delivery that doesn't spin as much and spin at pace. A ball actually spinning at pace is always infinitely more dangerous than one that spins slowly.
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I think you are confusing between a faster delivery that doesn't spin as much and spin at pace. A ball actually spinning at pace is always infinitely more dangerous than one that spins slowly.
Can't argue with that point. Agreed.
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This thread's a joke, right? The spinner featured seems pretty average to me. He's turning it quite a bit but any mediocre club spinner should be able to turn it miles on matting. Doesn't resemble Murali, either.
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I don't think we are saying that it has to be as quick as the two bowlers you mention but it looks comfortably slower than 50 mph (circa 80kph) and that good batsman have more than enough time to react.
Makes sense. Any tips on how can he increase his speed.
I know the guy and actually created this account for him and posting from his account here, since he's illiterate and doesn't write/speak English.
Any tips would be highly appreciated.
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Makes sense. Any tips on how can he increase his speed.
I know the guy and actually created this account for him and posting from his account here, since he's illiterate and doesn't write/speak English.
Any tips would be highly appreciated.
I guess as someone who these days bowls highly ropey wrist spin, I can give a few pointers as I can picture the mechanics without executing them that well! All I can suggest is ensuring that he strengthens himself and also considers the way he grips the ball. For instance if his fingers are split too much and the grip is too tight, it makes it difficult to get enough natural speed on the ball. So there needs to be a mixture of supplety and strength in the grip to get the most out of the ball.
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I would suggest he needs to stand taller through his action (is that what Chin means by strengthening himself?) and looks to pivot a little more so that his right foot comes across towards the point of release - he ends up quite square at the end of this action.

Sorry, my last post was a little grumpy. He still doesn't look much like Murali, but why does he need to?
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Old 3rd April 2017, 13:54   #17
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I guess as someone who these days bowls highly ropey wrist spin, I can give a few pointers as I can picture the mechanics without executing them that well! All I can suggest is ensuring that he strengthens himself and also considers the way he grips the ball. For instance if his fingers are split too much and the grip is too tight, it makes it difficult to get enough natural speed on the ball. So there needs to be a mixture of supplety and strength in the grip to get the most out of the ball.
These tips are quite useful. I'll surely communicate these eith the bowler. Thanks
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This thread's a joke, right? The spinner featured seems pretty average to me. He's turning it quite a bit but any mediocre club spinner should be able to turn it miles on matting. Doesn't resemble Murali, either.
Murali's action is untouchable. His arm is permanently bent and it makes his action unique. This action though not exactly similar, sure did turn quite a few eyeballs in the club, which was the primary reason I uploaded it on YT and posted about it on here.
Also, as someone who was present there himself, the pitch wasn't favoring spinners so this amount of spin was a big plus. I can only imagine the insane amount of turn he would have gotten had
this been a mat wicket.
Thanks for the tips. They always help in some manner.
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