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Old 28th July 2013, 17:21   #1
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Upul Tharanga

Has 13 ODI hundreds.

That's more than Bell, Trott, Morgan, Root, Bairstow etc combined.

Upul Tharanga.
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Old 28th July 2013, 18:01   #2
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Got them in 170 games as well as opposed to the combined total of 325. Something that England don't do enough of is go on and make tons in 50 over games. Kohli's got 15 in 111 games, although he's a class one day player.

Tharanga though doesn't have the best stats beyond the tons, 73 s/r and 34 average. I suppose that reinforces the point even more that we don't go big enough.
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One century in an Ashes Test at Lord's > 10,000 ODI runs. Hard but fair.
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Old 28th July 2013, 20:16   #4
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One century in an Ashes Test at Lord's > 10,000 ODI runs. Hard but fair.
Are you suggesting that Ian Bell has already surpassed Viv Richards?
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Are you suggesting that Ian Bell has already surpassed Viv Richards?
I'd value Ian Bell's Test hundred at Lord's higher than all of Viv's ODI runs, sure.
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Old 28th July 2013, 21:49   #6
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I'd value Ian Bell's Test hundred at Lord's higher than all of Viv's ODI runs, sure.
Viv did score 138 important odi runs at lords in 1979, but whether you'd value them over IRB's I doubt!
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Viv did score 138 important odi runs at lords in 1979, but whether you'd value them over IRB's I doubt!
I know - I was there at Lord's to see it!

Ignore my anti-ODI grumblings. I'm just crotchety because large chunks of the best two months of the county season are currently being given over to the short stuff.
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Old 28th July 2013, 22:57   #8
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Has 13 ODI hundreds.

That's more than Bell, Trott, Morgan, Root, Bairstow etc combined.

Upul Tharanga.
5 of them were against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe. And as has been pointed out, his overall stats aren't that good. Much worse than Trott, Cook or Morgan. He's reached an arbitrary milestone more often, but he's still an inferior player.
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Old 28th July 2013, 23:19   #9
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5 of them were against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe. And as has been pointed out, his overall stats aren't that good. Much worse than Trott, Cook or Morgan. He's reached an arbitrary milestone more often, but he's still an inferior player.
Point taken that's it an arbitrary milestone, but ignoring the Bangles and Zimbabwe that's still 8 hundreds in 144 ODI matches, when someone like Bell has 3 in 135 ODIs (including Bangladesh and Zimbabwe).

In the England squad only Pietersen has more ODI hundreds than Tharanga less minnow bashing has, and Tharanga has the 4th most hundreds in the current Sri Lankan side.
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This is a kind of interesting factoid but Sri Lanka plays far more games and Tharanga is a grind your way to a ton sort of ODI player, faciliated by playing on sub continental wickets. My guess (although it is a guess) would be that top order batsmen don't get to score the same number of tons in England because the ball moves more and that of course, lower order batsmen generally don't get a chance at all.
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This is a kind of interesting factoid but Sri Lanka plays far more games and Tharanga is a grind your way to a ton sort of ODI player, faciliated by playing on sub continental wickets. My guess (although it is a guess) would be that top order batsmen don't get to score the same number of tons in England because the ball moves more and that of course, lower order batsmen generally don't get a chance at all.
It is a fair point but it has to be pointed out that Bell and Trott are grind their way to scores. Neither are great to watch.
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Combined, SL's big three & Thuranga average 142. KP, Bell, Cook and Trott average 168.
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This is a kind of interesting factoid but Sri Lanka plays far more games and Tharanga is a grind your way to a ton sort of ODI player, faciliated by playing on sub continental wickets. My guess (although it is a guess) would be that top order batsmen don't get to score the same number of tons in England because the ball moves more and that of course, lower order batsmen generally don't get a chance at all.
Sri Lanka may play more games but those players I listed had played something like twice as more games combined with fewer combined hundreds.

Bairstow was probably unfair to include in there as he'll have batted lower in the order, but he hasn't played much anyway.
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Could be worse, Misbah-ul-Haq has played 125 one day games and hasn't got a ton to his name, averages 44 as well.
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Could be worse, Misbah-ul-Haq has played 125 one day games and hasn't got a ton to his name, averages 44 as well.
Of his 114 innings, 80 have been at 4 or lower.

His strike-rate is a bit slow though.

Has had a 93* in a successful chase and a 96* when they were bowled out with two overs spare.
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Misbah is essentially a cheaper version of Dhoni.
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You reckon?
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Tharanga dropped!

(Or possibly rested with the series won).
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