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Old 19th August 2010, 22:57   #1
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The Deathwatch List

Thought it might be fun to keep a running list of completed test innings since last hundred

Pietersen 22*
Strauss 21
Cook 9
Bopara 7
Collingwood 6
Trott 5
Morgan 3
Prior 1
Bell


*nb 8 innings since he was out for 99

Correct as of Close of Play day 2, 3rd test Eng 6/1 Strauss out.


Feel free to keep updated
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Old 19th August 2010, 23:10   #2
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I think this is brilliant. I love the angry mob too!
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Old 20th August 2010, 10:50   #3
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I've add the average since last 100, and number of 50s as well, for a more complete picture. So:

Pietersen 22, Avg 38.09, 6 50s
Strauss 21, Avg 36.6, 7 50s
Cook 9, Avg 13.25, 0 50s
Collingwood 6, Avg 23.3, 1 50
Trott 5, Avg 37.4, 2 50s
Morgan 3, Avg 11.5, 0 50s
Prior 2, Avg 99, 1 50

I've also kept it to players in the team, rather than spuriously adding player(s) who I think should be in the team.
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Old 20th August 2010, 10:56   #4
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Cook's stats are frightening.
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Old 20th August 2010, 15:29   #5
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I've add the average since last 100, and number of 50s as well, for a more complete picture. So:

Pietersen 22, Avg 38.09, 6 50s
Strauss 21, Avg 36.6, 7 50s
Cook 9, Avg 13.25, 0 50s
Collingwood 6, Avg 23.3, 1 50
Trott 5, Avg 37.4, 2 50s
Morgan 3, Avg 11.5, 0 50s
Prior 2, Avg 99, 1 50

I've also kept it to players in the team, rather than spuriously adding player(s) who I think should be in the team.
Nice. Do you think that gbg thinks Bell should be in the team though?
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Old 20th August 2010, 17:15   #6
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No, he just wanted to post a duck next to Bell
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Old 20th August 2010, 20:22   #7
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Old 20th August 2010, 20:33   #8
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Updated to end of 3rd test

Pietersen 23*
Strauss 21
Bopara 7
Collingwood 7
Trott 6
Morgan 4
Prior 2
Bell

Cook


*nb 9 innings since he was out for 99
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Old 20th August 2010, 23:21   #9
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I've add the average since last 100, and number of 50s as well, for a more complete picture. So:

Pietersen 22, Avg 38.09, 6 50s
Strauss 21, Avg 36.6, 7 50s
Cook 9, Avg 13.25, 0 50s
Collingwood 6, Avg 23.3, 1 50
Trott 5, Avg 37.4, 2 50s
Morgan 3, Avg 11.5, 0 50s
Prior 2, Avg 99, 1 50

I've also kept it to players in the team, rather than spuriously adding player(s) who I think should be in the team.
Bell would be in the team if not injured, whether you think he should or not.
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Old 21st August 2010, 09:40   #10
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The average bit is a bit spurious as players are obviously going to average lower in innings excluding centuries.
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Old 21st August 2010, 12:02   #11
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The average bit is a bit spurious as players are obviously going to average lower in innings excluding centuries.
Not entirely spurious. Strauss and KP actually have almost-decent averages considering, whereas others were averaging fairly low.
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Old 21st August 2010, 15:07   #12
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It's worth comparing. For example you could see why Cook was under pressure, rather than Strauss and Pietersen.
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Uh.
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Old 21st August 2010, 16:23   #13
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The average bit is a bit spurious as players are obviously going to average lower in innings excluding centuries.
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Excluding Bangladesh on the grounds that the Australian attack will be more like those of SA and Pakistan than Bangladesh, the averages do not look superb for the most part since the Ashes:

Strauss- 312 runs @ 26, 2 half centuries, 0 centuries
Cook- 444 runs @ 37, 2 half centuries, 2 centuries
Trott- 402 runs @ 33.50, 3 half centuries, 0 centuries
Pietersen- 317 runs @ 26.42, 2 half centuries, 0 centuries
Collingwood- 463 runs @ 42.09, 4 half centuries, 0 centuries
Bell- 313 runs @ 44.71, 1 half century, 0 centuries. (Only played SA series)
Prior- 370 runs @ 37, 3 half centuries, 1 century
Morgan- (only played Pakistan series), 173 runs @ 34.60, 0 half centuries, 1 century.

Would certainly suggest that Strauss and Pietersen pretty high up the old deathwatch list...
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Old 24th August 2010, 12:41   #16
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Strauss is a good captain with an excellent batting record, he will come good in Australia. Pietersen is bullet proof. Trott is the man we need to lose for Bell. Trott's batting style and pace just heaps extra pressure on the middle order.
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Old 24th August 2010, 13:10   #17
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People are finally beginning to question why Pietersen is bullet proof. Once he is looked on as just one of the batsmen in the line-up his place will also come into question if he doesn't play some successful innings soon.

I think Strauss will come good. He was our best batsman in 2009, making 1172 runs @ 53.27 with 4 100s and 4 50s. Being rested from the Bangladesh tour doesn't seem to have had the beneficial effect intended as he has had a very poor year so far, but I hope this was just a blip.

I'm confused by Trott. At times he seems the best no. 3 we've had for ages, looking composed and putting in solid performances. But the line between "composed" and "in a world of his own disregarding the need to up the pace" has been crossed more than once, in two cases leading to matches being lost. The blame for the defeats should be placed elsewhere but if only he had batted with a bit more intent things could have been different.

I am really pleased that Cook has made a century and saved his career, because it avoids the two nightmare scenarios of 1) continuing to open with Cook still struggling or 2) replacing him with someone else who might also fail or moving Trott up to open and moving Bell up to 3. However, I'm not convinced that this is a triumphant return to form, not until we have seen him bat at Lord's. But he did show a lot of character to play the way he did on Friday.
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I can't see Bell scoring no runs at 3 being better than Trott scoring runs slowly at 3.
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I can't see Bell scoring no runs at 3 being better than Trott scoring runs slowly at 3.
That's why I said that Trott moving up to open and Bell at 3 was a nightmare scenario. Bell has once again said that his ambition is to bat at 3 but he is so much better down the order that I hope he stays at 5 or 6.
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Excluding Bangladesh on the grounds that the Australian attack will be more like those of SA and Pakistan than Bangladesh, the averages do not look superb for the most part since the Ashes:

Strauss- 312 runs @ 26, 2 half centuries, 0 centuries
Cook- 444 runs @ 37, 2 half centuries, 2 centuries
Trott- 402 runs @ 33.50, 3 half centuries, 0 centuries
Pietersen- 317 runs @ 26.42, 2 half centuries, 0 centuries
Collingwood- 463 runs @ 42.09, 4 half centuries, 0 centuries
Bell- 313 runs @ 44.71, 1 half century, 0 centuries. (Only played SA series)
Prior- 370 runs @ 37, 3 half centuries, 1 century
Morgan- (only played Pakistan series), 173 runs @ 34.60, 0 half centuries, 1 century.

Would certainly suggest that Strauss and Pietersen pretty high up the old deathwatch list...
I'm not sure these figures are accurate Pops. I'm sure Bell scored a century in South Africa. It's a fairly small sample size but those averages (if correct) are very poor.
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