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Old 13th August 2015, 00:23   #81
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To be fair I wouldn't quite include Butcher as a 'prime' England batsman. Didn't he average about 35? He had class and a selection of shots though.

Wish we could find a partner for Cook who could average 35 at the moment though.
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Old 13th August 2015, 00:41   #82
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To be fair I wouldn't quite include Butcher as a 'prime' England batsman. Didn't he average about 35? He had class and a selection of shots though.

Wish we could find a partner for Cook who could average 35 at the moment though.
Yes, average of around 35. His initial run of tests were well below that average and the bulk of his 8 centuries and 4400 career test runs during his second spell, batting mainly at 3.

Edit: Butcher before 2001, average 25; 1253 runs in 27 tests, 2 centuries: after Jan 2001, average 41; 3035 runs in 44 tests, 6 centuries. Source: Espncricinfo Statsguru

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Old 13th August 2015, 12:38   #83
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Butcher is best remembered for his fabulous match winning 173* at Headingley, Ashes 2001.
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Old 5th September 2015, 16:00   #84
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Another low score for Hales. If this series is his audition for the UAE what does he need to do in the final three matches? I would say at least a fifty in two of the three innings.
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Another low score for Hales. If this series is his audition for the UAE what does he need to do in the final three matches? I would say at least a fifty in two of the three innings.
That shot would have gone for four against Pakistan, fear not.
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Another low score for Hales. If this series is his audition for the UAE what does he need to do in the final three matches? I would say at least a fifty in two of the three innings.
Given his record of a total of two fifties in 16 innings two in the next three is a bit optimistic. Also the next games are at Old Trafford, Headingley and back to Old Trafford, thus reducing the chances of there being three completed matches; more so as I'm going to two of them.
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Old 5th September 2015, 16:33   #87
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Given his record of a total of two fifties in 16 innings two in the next three is a bit optimistic. Also the next games are at Old Trafford, Headingley and back to Old Trafford, thus reducing the chances of there being three completed matches; more so as I'm going to two of them.
Two at OT? Odd.
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Old 5th September 2015, 17:08   #88
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Two at OT? Odd.
No test match at OT this year so guess it was compensation and so that northerners could see the Aussies.
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Two at OT? Odd.
I thought so too. I'm going to one at OT and one at Headingley.
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Given his record of a total of two fifties in 16 innings two in the next three is a bit optimistic. Also the next games are at Old Trafford, Headingley and back to Old Trafford, thus reducing the chances of there being three completed matches; more so as I'm going to two of them.
He's got something like two in his last six innings, so it's slightly more realistic than your first point makes out, although your second point makes it redundant.
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Lost count of the number and times he played and missed outside the off stump today. He hit some very good shots, though.
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Am I right in thinking that Hales is the kind of player who goes on a streak of scores for Notts, and once he gets going he gets a lot in quick succession? Hopefully this is the start of him churning out some scores.
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Am I right in thinking that Hales is the kind of player who goes on a streak of scores for Notts, and once he gets going he gets a lot in quick succession? Hopefully this is the start of him churning out some scores.
Nope. Because of his technique he's very inconsistent, he's never really in knick imo.

Can look useless for some time & then out of nowhere he's untouchable & scores at a ridiculous rate.

Very frustrating player.
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I'd rather pick Michelle as opener than play Hales.
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I'd rather pick Michelle as opener than play Hales.
How about KP?
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It's amazing how much gnashing of teeth the selection of Alex Hales has caused on here. He may or may not be good enough to open in tests but he is no worse an option than anything else in English cricket.

One is left wondering what the underlying reason for the opprobrium might be. I fear it's good old fashioned English snobbery towards the shorter forms of the game, which sees the selection of a limited over "specialist" as being an affront to the game.
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It's amazing how much gnashing of teeth the selection of Alex Hales has caused on here. He may or may not be good enough to open in tests but he is no worse an option than anything else in English cricket.

One is left wondering what the underlying reason for the opprobrium might be. I fear it's good old fashioned English snobbery towards the shorter forms of the game, which sees the selection of a limited over "specialist" as being an affront to the game.
Cabinboy and D/L are still in mourning over Adam Lyth's still-born test career as he's a Yorkie. Not sure anyone else is against Hales' selection.
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Cabinboy and D/L are still in mourning over Adam Lyth's still-born test career as he's a Yorkie. Not sure anyone else is against Hales' selection.
Michelle, RS, Sir Virgs, YAMS...?
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Plenty thought it a strange selection, and not just on here.

On the "stillborn" theme, it's strange that the selectors conceived such an idea about Hales.
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