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Old 28th December 2010, 20:56   #1
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Whats the situation with DRS?

Admittedly, I haven't followed cricket as closely as before in the last year or so and am wondering what the situation is with the cricket referral system.

Mainly, why is it being used in this Ashes series but not in South Africa for that series? The possibility of bad decisions being overturned can change matches, so surely its a bit unfair for matches that have been won with the benefit of DRS to be ranked in the same way as a match that has been won without?

If its the case that South African TV (Supersport?) don't have the technology/haven't yet agreed to it then surely the DRS shouldn't exist at all in cricket until it's possible for every televised international match to benefit from it?

I'm for the referral system, I think it works well, but it has to be happening in every match.
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Old 28th December 2010, 21:07   #2
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As far as I can tell it is something the Indians hate and refuse to use. Today showed quite nicely why they refuse it!
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Old 28th December 2010, 21:24   #3
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As far as I can tell it is something the Indians hate and refuse to use. Today showed quite nicely why they refuse it!
I'm not sure what their beef with it is, but they've been screwed over a few times this series by not having it.

In other series it's been the local broadcaster not supplying the tech. If the ICC do make it compulsory then I guess they'll have to help finance it. Until then, I'm not fussed about one series having it and one not, as long as both teams in a series have the same system.
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Old 28th December 2010, 22:53   #4
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As far as I can tell it is something the Indians hate and refuse to use. Today showed quite nicely why they refuse it!
I also read something a while ago that suggested Smith isn't very keen on it either.

So is it the case that it is something the teams can vote on before the series?

Don't understand why you wouldn't want to use it if all the technology (hotspot etc.) is there because it cuts out the rank bad decisions, which they would be all too quick to moan about if it affected the outcome of a game, not to mention the effect a run of bad decisions can have on a players career.
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Old 28th December 2010, 22:58   #5
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Gives them something to moan about. Matt Prior has only had two decent knocks in the Ashes. Both he was incorrectly out before making 10. Guessing he likes it
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Old 28th December 2010, 23:04   #6
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Gives them something to moan about. Matt Prior has only had two decent knocks in the Ashes. Both he was incorrectly out before making 10. Guessing he likes it
But the right decision was made, which is what matters. Australia will have been peeved with it at the time, but wouldn't have been complaining on the occasions they have got England batsmen out because of being able to review.

If certain players don't want it because they are worried they personally won't be able to get away with things, then its a bit of a poor excuse and doesn't make them look particularly sporting. Some say they "don't trust it"... don't understand that either, its pretty clear cut.
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Old 30th December 2010, 10:20   #7
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I also read something a while ago that suggested Smith isn't very keen on it either.

So is it the case that it is something the teams can vote on before the series?

Don't understand why you wouldn't want to use it if all the technology (hotspot etc.) is there because it cuts out the rank bad decisions, which they would be all too quick to moan about if it affected the outcome of a game, not to mention the effect a run of bad decisions can have on a players career.
I think that it has to be by agreement in the first instance but the home board has the final say in the case of disagreement. Smith is indeed on record as saying he is not a fan, but the decision would lie with the the SACB if they had wanted it. It will be interesting to see what the ECB come up with against India next summer.

The trouble is that it is the responsibility of the home board to pay for it when it should be the cash-laden ICC.
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Old 30th December 2010, 12:37   #8
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I don't like it either, I hate how most lbw decisions have turned into this drawn out process, completely saps the drama. Think back to Cork's hat-trick which finished with an lbw, and compare it to Siddle's - just watched the coverage "he's out! he get's him! wait not yet, not yet..." then there's five minutes of ****ing around before they confirm that he's out.

I'm not saying that's why the Indians don't like it btw. Also we had it for our series in SA last winter.
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Old 30th December 2010, 12:46   #9
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wasnt the reason for non-use in S Africa something to do with money - I seem to remember some argument over who should foot the bill - ICC/ local cricket board/ TV Companies
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Old 30th December 2010, 13:01   #10
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wasnt the reason for non-use in S Africa something to do with money - I seem to remember some argument over who should foot the bill - ICC/ local cricket board/ TV Companies
There was an article on CricInfo yesterday. Apparantly India quite strongly made it clear they didn't want it, and South Africa weren't fussed enough to want to risk damaging relations by forcing the issue.

India are being a bit petty of it in my opinion, and doubt they'll get away with having to use it in England next summer.
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I don't like it either, I hate how most lbw decisions have turned into this drawn out process, completely saps the drama. Think back to Cork's hat-trick which finished with an lbw, and compare it to Siddle's - just watched the coverage "he's out! he get's him! wait not yet, not yet..." then there's five minutes of ****ing around before they confirm that he's out.

I'm not saying that's why the Indians don't like it btw. Also we had it for our series in SA last winter.
Yeah but think of all the runs Cook scored having twice been sawn off (also he scored a possible career-saving hundred after overturning a shocker in SA last winter) and being able to overturn the decisions. I think it adds something to the spectacle too. It's also worth it just to be able to imagine Sir Virgs shaking with rage with each reprieve for Prior, and every run afterwards being like a dagger to the heart.
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Old 30th December 2010, 15:52   #12
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I don't like it either, I hate how most lbw decisions have turned into this drawn out process, completely saps the drama.
This was my original fear of technology being used, but I have to say the fact the video evidence is shown on the big screens in the ground really gets the crowd involved and makes for quite entertaining drama.

The worst thing the ICC could do is stop the big screen replays, then it would become a tedious drawn out process for the spectators because they won't know whats going on.
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Yeah but think of all the runs Cook scored having twice been sawn off (also he scored a possible career-saving hundred after overturning a shocker in SA last winter) and being able to overturn the decisions. I think it adds something to the spectacle too. It's also worth it just to be able to imagine Sir Virgs shaking with rage with each reprieve for Prior, and every run afterwards being like a dagger to the heart.
You don't forgive or forget, do you?

Tell you what I really miss, is being able to rub Death's nose in it now that Prior appears to be an international standard lower middle order batsman and a perfectly competent, even good, keeper.
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Old 30th December 2010, 22:26   #14
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I don't like it either, I hate how most lbw decisions have turned into this drawn out process, completely saps the drama. Think back to Cork's hat-trick which finished with an lbw, and compare it to Siddle's - just watched the coverage "he's out! he get's him! wait not yet, not yet..." then there's five minutes of ****ing around before they confirm that he's out.

I'm not saying that's why the Indians don't like it btw. Also we had it for our series in SA last winter.
I'm not against it but i agree with above. Completely kills the euphoria that follows after a wicket falls.
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Yeah but think of all the runs Cook scored having twice been sawn off (also he scored a possible career-saving hundred after overturning a shocker in SA last winter) and being able to overturn the decisions. I think it adds something to the spectacle too. It's also worth it just to be able to imagine Sir Virgs shaking with rage with each reprieve for Prior, and every run afterwards being like a dagger to the heart.
I don't have a problem with prior. What I have a problem with is people saying he is a proper batsman. There is a big difference. He is alright at 7 but the idea he could bat six with a tail of broad bres swan etc does make me shake with rage.
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Old 30th December 2010, 22:30   #16
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Just seen what fs wrote re forgive and forget. How is young Joe doing these days
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Old 30th December 2010, 22:42   #17
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Just seen what fs wrote re forgive and forget. How is young Joe doing these days
It's probably quite hard for Sharky to see through the cow, in fairness.
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Old 30th December 2010, 22:49   #18
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It's probably quite hard for Sharky to see through the cow, in fairness.
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Tell you what I really miss, is being able to rub Death's nose in it now that Prior appears to be an international standard lower middle order batsman and a perfectly competent, even good, keeper.
Death never said anything good about anyone except Read and Shah, although Prior did get special treatment. Nowadays it's only the odd person who foams at the mouth when it comes to him and just can't let go. He'll probably forever be a work in progress with his keeping but he's done really well to kill off the Read v Jones thread(s).

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