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Old 30th May 2015, 11:16   #121
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Old 31st May 2015, 14:25   #122
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Sidebottom acquitted himself well at international level. It's a shame the type of selection policy now being advocated meant he played far fewer matches than he should have.
I think more recently his premature retirement from international cricket in order to make himself more attractive to his old county may also have been a factor.
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Old 31st May 2015, 16:08   #123
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Sidebottom retired from international cricket, possibly a little too early, but that was his decision. The more matches he should have played would have been earlier in his career.
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Old 31st May 2015, 21:03   #124
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Sidebottom retired from international cricket, possibly a little too early, but that was his decision. The more matches he should have played would have been earlier in his career.
I would have thought there's only any point in retiring from international cricket if you think the selectors might otherwise pick you. But maybe they'd've been wrong to do that in his case anyway. Still, I think if you're potentially going to refuse to play even if the selectors might have wanted you to, I don't think you can complain that once upon a time they should have selected you when they didn't.
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Old 1st June 2015, 11:00   #125
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Another point, of course, would be to attract a better contract from one's county.

I never heard Sidebottom complain about his not being reselected until quite late in his career.

One can complain, though, at a system that quite recently so obviously overlooked achievement in the county championship in favour of a few players identified as the "future core", one that seems to be being advocated again.
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Old 1st June 2015, 11:54   #126
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Another point, of course, would be to attract a better contract from one's county.

I never heard Sidebottom complain about his not being reselected until quite late in his career.

One can complain, though, at a system that quite recently so obviously overlooked achievement in the county championship in favour of a few players identified as the "future core", one that seems to be being advocated again.
You seem to be taking issue with the central contracts that England are using, which have resulted in a greater consistency of selection, but make it harder to bring in form players from county cricket.
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Old 1st June 2015, 12:02   #127
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On balance, perhaps a good thing, but central contracts have brought some problems with them. There have been many discussions elsewhere on the subject.
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Old 1st June 2015, 14:19   #128
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Interestingly, Ryan Sidebottom is being interviewed on TMS during the rain delay and makes some astute observations about the merits of left arm swing bowling, even if it is not delivered at the prescribed 90 mph.
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Old 8th August 2015, 18:47   #129
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There have been games where Stokes hasn't done much this series, but he's made big contributions in the first and last games. If he can becomes consistent and make a impact on every game then he could be to us what Kallis was to SA.
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He'll never bat as boringly as Kallis but highly unlikely to be as successful either. He may end up being a better bowler though: he has the attributes to be a really menacing fast bowler if he puts them all together often enough.
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Old 8th August 2015, 19:01   #131
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He'll never bat as boringly as Kallis but highly unlikely to be as successful either. He may end up being a better bowler though: he has the attributes to be a really menacing fast bowler if he puts them all together often enough.
That's interesting. I've always thought he is more likely to develop into a better batsman than bowler. Then again, he did look impressive with the ball in the second innings. At the minute I would say he lacks consistency with both, but he has the potential to be destructive with both.
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That's interesting. I've always thought he is more likely to develop into a better batsman than bowler. Then again, he did look impressive with the ball in the second innings. At the minute I would say he lacks consistency with both, but he has the potential to be destructive with both.
Kallis wasn't a destructive bowler but a clearly excellent batsman. Stokes will probably be more in the Botham mould, a potential match winner in both disciplines. That's if he reaches his potential.
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Kallis wasn't a destructive bowler but a clearly excellent batsman. Stokes will probably be more in the Botham mould, a potential match winner in both disciplines. That's if he reaches his potential.
A seaming/swinging pitch and bowling a side out to win. That was kallis. Stokes could develop into a sensational cricketer.
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He'll never bat as boringly as Kallis but highly unlikely to be as successful either. He may end up being a better bowler though: he has the attributes to be a really menacing fast bowler if he puts them all together often enough.
He is not quite as quick as kallis who was topping 90 regularly at his age (and still reaches 85 now)
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There have been games where Stokes hasn't done much this series, but he's made big contributions in the first and last games. If he can becomes consistent and make a impact on every game then he could be to us what Kallis was to SA.
I very much doubt that.

I notice that in the media though, one good bowling performance once again has him as a "genuine all-rounder".
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Kp 227. Does this mean you can stfu about that spent force now?
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