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Old 19th May 2014, 15:04   #41
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I think this is the bit in the Mail that you are referring to -



It may suggest the player was English the way it's worded but the meeting took place over here but makes no actual reference that Player X is English. Just a hero of B Mac. Twitter was awash with rumour that it was Cairns but he has come out and denied it was him.
Hard to think of an England player who would be a hero to a Kiwi.
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Old 19th May 2014, 15:09   #42
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Hard to think of an England player who would be a hero to a Kiwi.
Ian Botham?

More recently Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Flintoff, but a worrying lack of convict-slayers.
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Old 19th May 2014, 15:10   #43
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@MichaelVaughan my mate works for cricket durham and says it is @Colly622 . It would really put perspective into his sudden retirement.
Just a couple of major flaws there - Colly didn't play in the ICL and he isn't retired (apart from international cricket).
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Old 19th May 2014, 16:27   #44
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Dermot Reeve has coached in NZ and I think may have been involved with the ICL

*crosses fingers*
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Old 19th May 2014, 19:09   #45
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Dermot Reeve has coached in NZ and I think may have been involved with the ICL

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Old 19th May 2014, 19:10   #46
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I don't understand why the bookies need to do this? They must be taking colossal bets (from who I just don't know - who would bet thousands on spot betting on some Pro40 match?) in which case they could turn a heathy profit from the normal mark-up on the bets in the long run. Why go to the trouble and expense and risk of paying players?

I do admit I've read next to nothing about it and can't figure where these vast sums of money originate from.
If it its the only cricket being broadcast anywhere at that specific time then that probably makes it attractive for a betting market apparently worth hundreds of billions.

Sports betting being illegal in India probably makes it a lot worse as an unusual betting pattern will not be detected. If an unusual amount is bet on some random event in the UK, then it will be detected ( I think) and investigated.

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Doesn't look good at all. There's got to be a lot of players who're willing to take more than a seasons wages to throw one game.
I doubt that.
I somehow find this article strangely reassuring. I have never believed the county game to be 1,000% clean so no illusions have been lost there and on the other hand, the amounts are so small that I cant see many players being tempted. They will be taking a huge risk for a few thousand punds, risking their entire career. It doesnt make sense. They cant even know they are not actually dealing with undercover journalists. It may be mostly for the mentally unstable.
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Old 19th May 2014, 19:15   #47
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Fear perhaps, or the possibility no one would believe him?

I would think it's a big weight on the shoulders when a fellow cricketer comes up to you and offers you money to do something during a game. Their head would be spinning - Do I take the money? What's the risk? Will I get caught? Should I refuse and report it? Should I refuse and just brush it off?

I wouldn't like to be in that position.
Indeed. You would hope the ECB drill into the players what to do in the various ways they may get approached which is apprently not always straight forward
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Old 19th May 2014, 19:23   #48
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Henry Blofeld?
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Old 19th May 2014, 21:58   #49
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in Ian Chappel's column in Cricinfo he says that the authorities have never been serious about rooting out corruption.
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I think we have all watched games we know have been bent.
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The finger has been pointing at Chris Cairns as "Player X" but he has now spoken out and said that any allegations towards him are a complete lie.
Well, he would say that. Didn't sound convincing to me.
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Old 20th May 2014, 08:57   #53
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in Ian Chappel's column in Cricinfo he says that the authorities have never been serious about rooting out corruption.
It's not often I agree with Chappel but I do on this point.
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Old 20th May 2014, 10:57   #54
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Hmmm.....

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What happens if Cairns is found guilty, does he have to give Modi back the 90,000?
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Old 20th May 2014, 11:24   #56
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I'm starting to wonder if any cricket I have seen over the past few years is real.
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What happens if Cairns is found guilty, does he have to give Modi back the 90,000?
This is an ICC investigation so I suspect it would take something more official in UK courts for Modi to get it overturned (plus the 1.5m in costs). But if he was successful, I imagine Cairns would be in more trouble for something like perjury, at least, which could result in jail time.

But at the moment all we have to go on is a bit of leaked hearsay. My initial reaction is that it would have been extremely ballsy of Cairns to sue Modi if he was actually guilty of fixing, though I know it's happened before.
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From a couple of months back

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It is looking more and more as it the cat is out of the bag, Pandora's box has been opened etc.

When previously settled lawsuits are getting reopened it starts to look rather bleak for our game.
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