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Old 28th November 2014, 10:11   #61
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Really gutting news, that left me feeling pretty numb yesterday - as strange as that might sound to those outside of the cricket following community. This sort of thing just isn't meant to happen.

Remember sitting in the uni library some years ago tearing my hair out as Hughes smashed South Africa to all parts and wondering who on earth was this kid.

It will be very difficult for that first Test to go ahead.
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Old 28th November 2014, 10:12   #62
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I remember Nel I think, felling Donald in a first class match early in his career. He didn't do any serious damage, but was pretty distraught at the time.
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Old 28th November 2014, 11:51   #63
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As I've said, I've got nothing but sympathy for Sean Abbott, and he should get whatever support he needs. I know it's not easy think logically about such things, and of course I can completely understand why IF he is struggling to do so.

Apparently he's "holding up pretty well", of course someone else's view, not his own, but it's all we've got to go on. Not the guilt-stricken mess the world expects him to he. He MIGHT just have come to terms with the fact that this was an accident. Do you think hearing all these ex pros say how he'll never play again is going to be helpful?
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Old 28th November 2014, 12:04   #64
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As I've said, I've got nothing but sympathy for Sean Abbott, and he should get whatever support he needs. I know it's not easy think logically about such things, and of course I can completely understand why IF he is struggling to do so.

Apparently he's "holding up pretty well", of course someone else's view, not his own, but it's all we've got to go on. Not the guilt-stricken mess the world expects him to he. He MIGHT just have come to terms with the fact that this was an accident. Do you think hearing all these ex pros say how he'll never play again is going to be helpful?
In the immediate aftermath he may be holding up well. The test will be in the weeks and months ahead when life has moved on.
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Old 28th November 2014, 14:06   #65
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In the immediate aftermath he may be holding up well. The test will be in the weeks and months ahead when life has moved on.
Indeed, but let's give a him chance.

I'm really sorry to have caused this debate, I just feel that a disproportionate amount of attention has been focused on Abbott, one feels as if the fact that Hughes tried to take on the ball, a perfectly reasonable decision might I add, is being forgotten from what is being said and written.
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Old 28th November 2014, 15:30   #66
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People are struggling with this because it was such a freak accident. I would imagine most people who have played many different competitive sports at a decent level had had a good smack on the head. Each one of those could, and I emphasise the word could, have led to severe injury or death.

This morning my mum sent me a text saying on her count I have been hospitalised five times due to head injuries during sport. Two from cricket and three times playing hockey. I am lucky that i have not suffered any severe long term damage (other than a few good scars) but lots of people are not as lucky. Phillip Hughes' death will make everyone realise the risks people take when they take to the field. Yes he was at the top of his game so the dangers are higher but this has made everyone realise that if you are unlucky it could be the end of you.


That is possibly a bit melodramatic but I had to explain all of this to a six year old over breakfast. He said "I don't want to play cricket again if I will die." There is always the risk but that is true of getting in your car or going skiing.
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Old 28th November 2014, 20:46   #67
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Thanks SVG. I was thinking about the number of times I have stuck my shoulder into into someone's rib cage at rugby and felt one snap. I was never much of a bowler but I have lashed the odd cricket ball within a couple of inches of short leg's ear. There is this horrible feeling for that fraction of a second where you hit the ball and you desperately hope that the short leg is good enough to get out the **** out of the way, 'cos he ain't catching that. When you see the ball sizzling over the ropes and short leg giving a severe look at his bowler, you know he will be a yard or two further away next ball. There is a reason why it is called silly point. I would like Abbott to get his on an honours board next year. Be applauded every time he steps onto the field.
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Old 28th November 2014, 20:47   #68
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I think what made so many of us feel numb is that I think most of us expected him to recover. I guess Schumacher and Bianchi perhaps have made us believe that modern medicine can bring about recoveries from serious head injuries. Luckyluke might with his medical knowledge know more but a vertebral artery dissection presumably was identified early on and the prognosis from those early scans could not have been good.

If you reach for your 2014 wisden you will read that Darryn Randall a former South African first class cricketer also died last year after being struck on the side of the head batting.

This may be the Ayrton Senna moment for cricket. I can still recall exactly what I was doing that Sunday afternoon when I heard the news as a 13 year old. The events of Imola that weekend brought out dramatic changes in safety that have made a significant difference to that sport whether the same happens for cricket only time will tell.

Phillip Hughes RIP.
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Really gutting news, that left me feeling pretty numb yesterday - as strange as that might sound to those outside of the cricket following community. This sort of thing just isn't meant to happen.

Remember sitting in the uni library some years ago tearing my hair out as Hughes smashed South Africa to all parts and wondering who on earth was this kid.

It will be very difficult for that first Test to go ahead.
We want our sides to win. I have sincere hopes that Sean takes a massive amount of wickets in SA and then comes to England and takes many wickets at my beloved Headingley In a losing cause. I hope the England RU team wear the badge tomorrow.
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Old 29th November 2014, 05:38   #70
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Really has been a great universal show of support from not just the cricketing community but sports worldwide, great show of solidarity, particularly the support given to abbott which i think i good.
the only solace abbott can take is knowing not only was it freak accident but it was hughes who moved into position and got himself in the bad place, the delivery itself wasn't a 100mph ripsnorter which had him hopping, hughes' failed hooked turned him into the delivery, purely accident by hughes and a real real tragedy that it took a life. but he'll still replay it over and over and it'll always haunt him which is a real shame from something so unfortunate.

my living is through running a fight gym, its been very humbling for us, who get kicked punched and kneed in the head on a daily basis, to see someone so tragically taken by a blow to the head. it brings it all crashing to reality just how easily things can go wrong. may he always be remembered.
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Old 29th November 2014, 09:12   #71
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I think what made so many of us feel numb is that I think most of us expected him to recover. I guess Schumacher and Bianchi perhaps have made us believe that modern medicine can bring about recoveries from serious head injuries. Luckyluke might with his medical knowledge know more but a vertebral artery dissection presumably was identified early on and the prognosis from those early scans could not have been good.

If you reach for your 2014 wisden you will read that Darryn Randall a former South African first class cricketer also died last year after being struck on the side of the head batting.

This may be the Ayrton Senna moment for cricket. I can still recall exactly what I was doing that Sunday afternoon when I heard the news as a 13 year old. The events of Imola that weekend brought out dramatic changes in safety that have made a significant difference to that sport whether the same happens for cricket only time will tell.

Phillip Hughes RIP.
People call this a freak accident, but its not really that freakish. Sadly, like most accidents it was a combination of regularly occurring dangerous incidents that happened to align themselves at one tragic moment. Batsmen are regularly hit on the head by bowlers. This year alone I've seen Ryan McLaren (I think) felled and shaken up by one or two Johnson bouncers while Stuart Broad had his face mushed up by a ball that squirted through the gap between his grill and peak. Rather than say this was a one-off, cricket would be better to think of this as the worst and most desperate example of a series of recent, fortunately less tragic events.
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Old 29th November 2014, 09:42   #72
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People call this a freak accident, but its not really that freakish. Sadly, like most accidents it was a combination of regularly occurring dangerous incidents that happened to align themselves at one tragic moment. Batsmen are regularly hit on the head by bowlers. This year alone I've seen Ryan McLaren (I think) felled and shaken up by one or two Johnson bouncers while Stuart Broad had his face mushed up by a ball that squirted through the gap between his grill and peak. Rather than say this was a one-off, cricket would be better to think of this as the worst and most desperate example of a series of recent, fortunately less tragic events.
Yes, I think the freakishness in this case was that the ball struck the batsman in one of the few unprotected areas and to such devastating effect but, you're right, batsmen have been getting hit for as long as I recall. My formative cricketing education began in the 1970s, when blows to body and head were commonplace; cricket magazines carried articles predicting fatalities and Ralph Steadman produced a set of gory illustrations spattered in red. I made a list of players who'd been 'hit whilst looking to play positively' on the 'Bouncers' thread, including such luminaries as Compton, Cowdrey, Barry & Viv Richards, Botham and Greg Chappell. A fatality occurred as long ago as 1870 after an incident in a match between MCC and Notts at Lord's. So, it has happened before and will likely happen again. Maybe it's not just batsmen but also the fans that have been given a false sense of security by helmets.
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That Michael Clarke press conference was hard viewing. All this considered it would have been wrong to expect these players to take to the field on the planned first Test date.
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Tributes being paid on twitter through #putoutyourbats
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I was moved to do this. Then I remembered that my only remaining bat has 40% of its blade missing and it'd probably get half-inched 'round here anyway.
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That Michael Clarke press conference was hard viewing. All this considered it would have been wrong to expect these players to take to the field on the planned first Test date.
I cried watching it. The only thing that surprised me was how long it took to postpone the first test.
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I am still numb. Hughes just seemed to encompass everything about the baggy green and I vividly remember his first test in JB thinking that he would not look out of place in sides gone by. I was fortunate to be at the Durban test where he scored hundreds in both innings.

I was really looking forward to seeing the home tests. Now, it is the furthest thing from my mind. I am shocked that this happened to a cricketer full stop. That the cricketer was Phillip Hughes is unimaginable.

The talk of changes to safety, playing conditions etc are all too early at this stage. For mine, the ultimate respect to PH would be to leave things as is without any change in laws. He portrayed a deep respect for the traditions of the game.
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There's been another cricketing tragedy. An Israeli umpire has been killed after being struck by a ball.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-3...?section=sport
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A few years ago I met up with a friend and was shocked to see his face was black, blue and puffy. The cause? Being hit by a line-drive shot while in his follow-through. He came very close to losing his sight but was fortunate.
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I am still numb. Hughes just seemed to encompass everything about the baggy green and I vividly remember his first test in JB thinking that he would not look out of place in sides gone by. I was fortunate to be at the Durban test where he scored hundreds in both innings.

I was really looking forward to seeing the home tests. Now, it is the furthest thing from my mind. I am shocked that this happened to a cricketer full stop. That the cricketer was Phillip Hughes is unimaginable.

The talk of changes to safety, playing conditions etc are all too early at this stage. For mine, the ultimate respect to PH would be to leave things as is without any change in laws. He portrayed a deep respect for the traditions of the game.
I second this.
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