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Old 13th April 2015, 01:51   #21
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I don't think we know for sure. Have you got money on this?
Nope. It will just be funny to make the point to people using runs in a meaningless friendly to some kids hungover from celebrating the boat race success to someone should be fast tracked back into the form side in world cricket. Actually New Zealand are on a current run of victories to match england. The others are not.
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This one innings is really immaterial when it comes to an England recall. If he'd made no runs it would have been said that it's too early to make a decision. According to KP himself, however, his 170 shows he is back to full fitness and in the form of his life and ready to carry on in the same vein. We shall see. Don't think there will be a second Surrey innings.
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Nope. It will just be funny to make the point to people using runs in a meaningless friendly to some kids hungover from celebrating the boat race success to someone should be fast tracked back into the form side in world cricket.
You must have a very vast barn full of straw men!
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This one innings is really immaterial when it comes to an England recall. If he'd made no runs it would have been said that it's too early to make a decision. According to KP himself, however, his 170 shows he is back to full fitness and in the form of his life and ready to carry on in the same vein. We shall see. Don't think there will be a second Surrey innings.
KP has always been at his best when he has something to prove. We'll have to see how far the hunger drives him this time around and if his knee will stand up to it.
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He needs them to provide the labour for shifting all those goal posts.
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Nope. It will just be funny to make the point to people using runs in a meaningless friendly to some kids hungover from celebrating the boat race success to someone should be fast tracked back into the form side in world cricket. ...
Good point, well made.

Where's the significance in Pietersen's innings against a bunch of amateurs?

Even when he makes the huge step up to 2nd division bowlers, we will have cause for scepticism.
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Where have I shifted goal posts?

This is proper behaviour in a friendly match. http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ch/804149.html

I like how the write ups all say "red ball cricket" rather than first class the colour of the ball is more important than oppo. Haha.
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Where have I shifted goal posts?

This is proper behaviour in a friendly match. http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ch/804149.html

I like how the write ups all say "red ball cricket" rather than first class the colour of the ball is more important than oppo. Haha.
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In any case Surrey would have been 220 odd for 6 if he'd walked off at completing his ton, Essex had nearly reached that many when their second centurion retired, the second of two retirees.

I don't believe anyone seriously thinks that this innings should have any bearing on selection. Indeed it wasn't a first class match, it has friendly status, similar to the two warm-ups England had in St. Kitts albeit you could argue that those two games were even less preparation for a test match than what Surrey's will be for a first class match.
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Where have I shifted goal posts?

This is proper behaviour in a friendly match. http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ch/804149.html

I like how the write ups all say "red ball cricket" rather than first class the colour of the ball is more important than oppo. Haha.
The write-ups mentioned red ball cricket because people had been saying he hadn't scored any runs against the red ball since the last of his 8181 test runs.

He has of course scored plenty of runs in the Big Bash against first class status bowlers.
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The write-ups mentioned red ball cricket because people had been saying he hadn't scored any runs against the red ball since the last of his 8181 test runs.

He has of course scored plenty of runs in the Big Bash against first class status bowlers.
Red ball is a proxy for first class. You know that.
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KP has always been at his best when he has something to prove. We'll have to see how far the hunger drives him this time around and if his knee will stand up to it.
Oh, absolutely. That is when he is so easy to manage and why those captains and coaches who insist he is easy to manage say that because they had him when he was in proving himself mode. It's when he's proved everything he thinks he needs to and sees others around him underperforming that he gets twitchy and demanding.

He has been thrown something of a lifeline and is making the most of it. The fact that there is an upcoming Ashes series must also be a key factor. He might not have been prepared to make a lot of effort to play some other teams.
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What's the difference? That seems very weird reasoning.
Indeed. As I posted elsewhere, until this year the third round of matches was in May/June and with the season in full swing counties tended to play more fringe players, trialists, etc. Leicestershire even ended up playing their uni game on the same days as a Championship fixture due to a fixture rearrangement.

However, now with the fixtures all bunched together over a couple of weeks in April it's a bit puzzling why a game played just a few days after one with First Class status, with exactly the same playing conditions, should be treated differently. It certainly causes a hell of a lot of confusion.
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Good to see England's premium test spinner playing second fiddle to a chucker from Sri Lanka :|
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I noticed that too and was not particularly impressed.
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Ali is coming back from injury. Perhaps they are giving him light duties.
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Good to see England's premium test spinner playing second fiddle to a chucker from Sri Lanka :|
Now stop being nasty to Mr Mankad (sorry: Senanayake). He's been proven not to chuck any more. He's also likely not to be anywhere near as effective either!!
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Good to see England's premium test spinner playing second fiddle to a chucker from Sri Lanka :|
One might wonder if Ali really merits the label "premium test spinner". He got into the test team because he could bat in the top 6 and allow England to play the extra seamer in home conditions last season. Unless there is a batting position for him to slot back into, his reselection may depend on how the other spinner (or spinners) do in the meantime.
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One might wonder if Ali really merits the label "premium test spinner". He got into the test team because he could bat in the top 6 and allow England to play the extra seamer in home conditions last season. Unless there is a batting position for him to slot back into, his reselection may depend on how the other spinner (or spinners) do in the meantime.
How about Ali drops to no.7 and we replace Buttler with a superior gloveman?
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How about Ali drops to no.7 and we replace Buttler with a superior gloveman?
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