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Old 23rd June 2015, 16:04   #181
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Indeed, and if they pick Rashid over Moeen Ali for the first test they will have exceeded all expectations.
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Old 24th June 2015, 17:27   #182
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Have to give the selectors credit for the one day pick a. They called it spectacularly correct throughout.
Disagree - we lost two.
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Old 24th June 2015, 17:40   #183
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... and could have lost the series but for Santner's spilling a quite easy chance from Bairstow.

By such things are closely matched contests often decided.
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Old 29th June 2015, 16:39   #184
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Tim Bresnan as a specialist batsman?
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Old 1st July 2015, 01:00   #185
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Tim Bresnan as a specialist batsman?
Have to give him some serious respect as a batsman, scoring those runs against the attack of the league leaders.
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Old 1st July 2015, 10:40   #186
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Have to give him some serious respect as a batsman, scoring those runs against the attack of the league leaders.
This is true but no recall should come until he's at least in Yorkshire's top two bowlers and at present he's the fourth seamer / swing bowler there!
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Old 1st July 2015, 11:09   #187
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This is true but no recall should come until he's at least in Yorkshire's top two bowlers and at present he's the fourth seamer / swing bowler there!
Not sure one should impose such a hard and fast rule like that without first taking into account the overall quality of Yorkshire's bowling attack.

As a guide to his standing in the Yorkshire attack, in terms of wickets taken this season, Bresnan is third, just a couple behind Patterson.

Given his experience and batting ability, and while he's still young enough, he really only has to be just about as good as those who have been tried recently and only Wood has really shown much promise.
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Old 1st July 2015, 11:22   #188
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Have to give him some serious respect as a batsman, scoring those runs against the attack of the league leaders.
Sure. But even Stuart Broad has a mammoth score to his name, at international level. Useful as it is, I still wouldn't expect Bresnan to score much very often and his bowling isn't good enough, unless England suffer a lot of injuries.
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Old 1st July 2015, 11:28   #189
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Who knows how much money may have changed hands as a result of that innings in that test.

Many will be surprised the ICC didn't expunge the match from the records.
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Not sure one should impose such a hard and fast rule like that without first taking into account the overall quality of Yorkshire's bowling attack.

As a guide to his standing in the Yorkshire attack, in terms of wickets taken this season, Bresnan is third, just a couple behind Patterson.

Given his experience and batting ability, and while he's still young enough, he really only has to be just about as good as those who have been tried recently and only Wood has really shown much promise.
We have a batsman at number 8 and a third seamer who has a bowling strike rate of 48.6 instead of 64.9.

Also one bowls at 90mph and the other at 80mph.
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Old 1st July 2015, 11:45   #191
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We have a batsman at number 8 and a third seamer who has a bowling strike rate of 48.6 instead of 64.9.

Also one bowls at 90mph and the other at 80mph.
The return from a total of two tests against a gung-ho batting line up. Nice one - I reckon SV&Z would be proud of that stat.

If they are average bowling speeds, I think you misrepresent things there too.
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The return from a total of two tests against a gung-ho batting line up. Nice one - I reckon SV&Z would be proud of that stat.

If they are average bowling speeds, I think you misrepresent things there too.
I would have anyone bowling ahead of Bresnan. Plunkett, Jordan, Finn, Woakes, Rankin, Tremlett, even Bopara.
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According to George Dobell on Cricinfo the only dilemma for England is in the spin bowling department. If this is also the view of the selectors I will be quite dismayed. Gary Ballance has really struggled since he returned from the Caribbean and, as such, surely his place must be under scrutiny, even if it is only his place in the batting order? It's probably a moot point but if the choice of reserve seamer is between Liam Plunkett and Mark Footitt I would choose the latter in a heartbeat.
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Old 1st July 2015, 12:47   #194
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I would have anyone bowling ahead of Bresnan. Plunkett, Jordan, Finn, Woakes, Rankin, Tremlett, even Bopara.
Good for you. I think some of those on your list rather weaken your argument, though.
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Good for you. I think some of those on your list rather weaken your argument, though.
I think she may have been exaggerating to emphasise a point.
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Perhaps. Hard to tell, really.
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It would strike me as odd picking a fourth seamer from a county attack where none of the other three have played test cricket in the last five years to be the English third seamer.
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It would strike me as odd picking a fourth seamer from a county attack where none of the other three have played test cricket in the last five years to be the English third seamer.
It's not as silly as it first sounds; you have to remember that Yorkshire are way better than England Sir Virgs.
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It would strike me as odd picking a fourth seamer from a county attack where none of the other three have played test cricket in the last five years to be the English third seamer.
Not always the 4th seamer, though.

Of course, generally, it would also depend upon the selectability of the rest of the attack - age, experience, potential, nationality etc..
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Bresnan is a good player. But we need to take 20 Aussie wickets to win a Test - our 4th seamer is erratic and should only be utilised in short bursts, our spinner is a (potential) weakness who is unlikely to run through sides. For all their positive attributes Stokes and Ali are not comparable as bowlers to Flintoff and Swann.
The 3rd seamer, therefore, will probably bowl a large number of overs and needs to be capable of bowling match winning spells, especially as Anderson seems (somebody will probably quote me stats disproving this, however......) to be increasingly reliant on the new ball to take wickets. Bresnan is not that man.
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