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Old 24th November 2015, 10:49   #681
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Old 24th November 2015, 12:01   #682
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We Should take a look at the chap at the top of the batting averages. Sounds promising. For tests too?
Well had he still been in the ODI team he could have done a Buttler.
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Old 24th November 2015, 12:15   #683
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I wonder also about the chap next to him in second place ... he too has been dropped from this format.
And in the bowling averages, three out of the top four have been dropped. Who needs stats, eh?
Hahaha. Those three have taken 4 wickets between them but you know that.
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Old 29th November 2015, 00:24   #684
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Looks like Finn might be added to the squad going to SA.
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Old 29th November 2015, 14:23   #685
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Looks like Finn might be added to the squad going to SA.
Really? Where are you getting this from?
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Old 29th November 2015, 14:35   #686
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricke...n-late-6920410

and Broad likely to be in ODI and 20/20 squad to SA.
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Old 30th November 2015, 15:47   #687
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I understand Broad for t20s but ODIs?? He's been poor in the last couple of years and is way down in the rankings.
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Old 30th November 2015, 21:45   #688
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I understand Broad for t20s but ODIs?? He's been poor in the last couple of years and is way down in the rankings.
Anderson would be a better ODI choice although I am very happy he isn't playing ODIs!
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I understand Broad for t20s but ODIs?? He's been poor in the last couple of years and is way down in the rankings.
He would be just picked in ODIs to get white ball practice for the 20/20 World Cup . He last played 20/20 nearly 2 years ago. Bayliss and Farbrace won't worry if he is good or not in ODIs because he is the most experienced 20/20 player. 65 wickets at 22.93 econ 7.62.

Look at Woakes, 6 games without a wicket. The previous lot would have dropped him after 3 games.

Was wondering why Broad hadn't signed up for the PSL when the others who were left out of the ODIs did.
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England have a few tricky decisions on their hands ahead of the World T20. I think there are 18 names in the frame for a 15 man squad.

Alex Hales
Jason Roy
James Vince
Joe Root
Eoin Morgan
Joss Buttler
Sam Billings
Ben Stokes
Moeen Ali
Chris Woakes
David Willey

Chris Jordan
Adil Rashid
Liam Plunkett
Stuart Broad
Steven Parry
Steven Finn
Reece Topley


I'd pick the players in bold, which means I'd leave out Jordan, Plunkett and Broad.
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Old 1st December 2015, 18:32   #691
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Alex Hales
Jason Roy
James Vince
Joe Root
Eoin Morgan
Joss Buttler
Sam Billings
Ben Stokes
Moeen Ali
Chris Woakes
David Willey
Chris Jordan
Adil Rashid
Liam Plunkett
Stuart Broad
Steven Parry
Steven Finn
Reece Topley

The three from that who would miss out for me would be Vince, Jordan and Parry.
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I don't think you can drop Parry. Given that the tournament is going to be held in India, you can't go in with just two spinners in the squad. Root's there too of course, but as a FEC he's far too important to be seen doing spin bowling. I'd drop Finn and Topley for sure, as neither of them are good enough bowlers to make up for the fact that they're rubbish with the bat. In this format more than any other, maintaining an aggressive approach demands as long a batting order as possible. The third one is much harder. There's an argument for dropping Vince, but it would mean not really having enough batting specialists in the squad. So I think I'd drop Plunkett. Since he was recalled in the summer of 2014 he's failed to command a regular place in any format; and I think Jordan's better than him in every discipline. Anyhow ... is that really the 18, Psy, or is that just your impression of who is being considered?
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Anyhow ... is that really the 18, Psy, or is that just your impression of who is being considered?
Just my impression Sans. I'd be pretty surprised if anyone outside of those 18 names made the final squad, unless there are further injuries. I guess Patel and Wood might warrant some discussion but I don't think they'll make the cut.
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Just my impression Sans. I'd be pretty surprised if anyone outside of those 18 names made the final squad, unless there are further injuries. I guess Patel and Wood might warrant some discussion but I don't think they'll make the cut.
What about the 30 who will be named in the Provisional Squad first? Names will probably come from the Lions out in UAE.

(the 3 extra from your squad + Ball Bell-Drummond Briggs Clarke TCurran Dawson Foakes JOverton Malan Mills Westley Whiteley)
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What about the 30 who will be named in the Provisional Squad first? Names will probably come from the Lions out in UAE.

(the 3 extra from your squad + Ball Bell-Drummond Briggs Clarke TCurran Dawson Foakes JOverton Malan Mills Westley Whiteley)
No, I don't think so.
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No, I don't think so.
You must be thinking along the lines of Dernbach, Carberry, Wright, Bopara.... in that 30 man squad then.
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Psyduck doesn't do 30 man squads. You're either good enough to be in the 18 or you have a holiday.
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I didn't know which thread fitted this the best but in light of the series being decided there is a lot of talk from Botham re how England can rule the world.

Firstly re the make-up of the bowling attack, we do have a good range of quick bowlers, with Mark Wood hopefully returning from injury to add to what has a good range of pace, bounce, swing and reverse swing. This is all when and good, but we may well rather all too shortly be wondering who replaces Jimmy? The lie of the land could look different in 18 months because of that one likely absence and that is not discounting the problems that we have with spinners. Ok, Mo might like bowling to an Indian team who have become increasingly poor versus spin but there will need to be another one who bowls at least manageably if England are going to triumph.

In fairness Mark Butcher and Willis have taken on a more realistic tone regarding England in the future, noting a few of the issues that the current team has.
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I didn't know which thread fitted this the best but in light of the series being decided there is a lot of talk from Botham re how England can rule the world.

Firstly re the make-up of the bowling attack, we do have a good range of quick bowlers, with Mark Wood hopefully returning from injury to add to what has a good range of pace, bounce, swing and reverse swing. This is all when and good, but we may well rather all too shortly be wondering who replaces Jimmy? The lie of the land could look different in 18 months because of that one likely absence and that is not discounting the problems that we have with spinners. Ok, Mo might like bowling to an Indian team who have become increasingly poor versus spin but there will need to be another one who bowls at least manageably if England are going to triumph.

In fairness Mark Butcher and Willis have taken on a more realistic tone regarding England in the future, noting a few of the issues that the current team has.
In eighteen months time one of the young spinners in County cricket might have come on nicely. If they have that will offset the loss of Anderson. Seeing as Anderson is no longer playing ODI cricket, I would hope he could go on for a while longer yet. It would be ideal to find and blood a replacement for him before he retires.
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The big issue for me is the top of the order. We've just not been able fill the two gaps either side of Cook and we're running out of options.
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