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Old 10th June 2015, 10:48   #121
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Not sure that is as likely as it was yesterday morning.
It's a bit different in tests when you don't have batsmen trying to slog you just to keep the rrr under 10. I wouldn't put much past England selectors, even in the new New Era, but even they won't read much into this.
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Old 10th June 2015, 10:50   #122
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It's a bit different in tests when you don't have batsmen trying to slog you just to keep the rrr under 10. I wouldn't put much past England selectors, even in the new New Era, but even they won't read much into this.
T20 tells us that being able to turn it both ways is very useful when the batsmen need to score at huge rates, so yes, doesn't necessarily map much to test merit. It's still a good first effort from Rashid though.
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Old 10th June 2015, 11:06   #123
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T20 tells us that being able to turn it both ways is very useful when the batsmen need to score at huge rates, so yes, doesn't necessarily map much to test merit. It's still a good first effort from Rashid though.
Imran Tahir, great googly, not much of a leg-break. Successful in ODIs, rubbish at tests.
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Old 10th June 2015, 11:10   #124
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Imran Tahir, great googly, not much of a leg-break. Successful in ODIs, rubbish at tests.
Indeed, it's the number of four balls that they bowl with their stock delivery that counts in Test cricket. It's why Moeen has largely been garbage bar the odd innings with the ball, and will make or break Rashid's Test career should he be picked. In limited overs stuff, being able to spin it both ways against batsmen having to force the ball with swipes across the line is a dangerous weapon.
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Old 10th June 2015, 12:06   #125
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Imran Tahir, great googly, not much of a leg-break. Successful in ODIs, rubbish at tests.
That's pretty much most SA slow bowlers since 2011. Apart from maybe turning the ball
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Old 10th June 2015, 12:08   #126
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T20 tells us that being able to turn it both ways is very useful when the batsmen need to score at huge rates, so yes, doesn't necessarily map much to test merit. It's still a good first effort from Rashid though.
He didn't lose his head, so it's a plus. I imagine he'll be put under some decent pressure during this series which will test his temperament at least.
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Indeed, it's the number of four balls that they bowl with their stock delivery that counts in Test cricket. It's why Moeen has largely been garbage bar the odd innings with the ball, and will make or break Rashid's Test career should he be picked. In limited overs stuff, being able to spin it both ways against batsmen having to force the ball with swipes across the line is a dangerous weapon.
Good analysis, it makes Warne's test average and economy rate even more remarkable
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Indeed, it's the number of four balls that they bowl with their stock delivery that counts in Test cricket. It's why Moeen has largely been garbage bar the odd innings with the ball, and will make or break Rashid's Test career should he be picked. In limited overs stuff, being able to spin it both ways against batsmen having to force the ball with swipes across the line is a dangerous weapon.
How many 4 balls does Stuart Broad bowl in a spell ?
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Does Willey's inclusion in the Nothants t20 team today means he is out of the England squad tomorrow and/or for the series? And if he's fit to play now, what was that about a niggle the other day?
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Does Willey's inclusion in the Nothants t20 team today means he is out of the England squad tomorrow and/or for the series? And if he's fit to play now, what was that about a niggle the other day?
Morgan said he had a slight side-strain, they probably released him to test his fitness if he's unlikely to be in the XI tomorrow. He bowled, so he must be alright. Do I sense a new favourite for the ladies/conspiracy theorists?
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Morgan said he had a slight side-strain, they probably released him to test his fitness if he's unlikely to be in the XI tomorrow. He bowled, so he must be alright. Do I sense a new favourite for the ladies/conspiracy theorists?
A fairly new favourite of mine, but no conspiracies involved.

In this match, 2/34, a run-out and 60 from 27 balls.
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Even if they take 2 wickets, effect a run out and score 60 at a SR over 200?
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Perhaps they are trying to do the latest Hipster thing?
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Well, he'll certainly be selected for the 2nd ODI.

Very pleased for him, especially after the way he's been treated since first selection.

Not getting too carried away about his international one day credentials after just one match, though, and the opposition having to chase 400+ should raise all sorts of caveats.
I'm just annoyed the England set up messed him round yet again and forced him to have to come out and score international runs and then have to bowl to international batters in a format he clearly is not suited to. He most certainly should have been playing infront of two men and a dog bowling against the quality batting line ups in county cricket. It's vital he learns to bowl on wearing pitches afterall, rather than representing his country infront of 20,000 in a cauldron of atmosphere against WC finalists and gaining confidence with match winnings displays against the worlds best with both bat and ball. I doubt he learnt or proved anything from preventing an international line up attempting to target him from being able to do so, dismissing several in the process, not to mention what a waste that match turning innings was. Horribly messed around, typical ECB.

Anyone would think he were selected on the basis of actually being a more than handy one day interntional prospect.
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Completely missing the point, as usual.
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Does Willey's inclusion in the Nothants t20 team today means he is out of the England squad tomorrow and/or for the series? And if he's fit to play now, what was that about a niggle the other day?
Plunkett and Jordan both injured apparently. He may well have to play...
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And so he did. And did OK.
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Completely missing the point, as usual.
Ever stopped for a second and realised all your points are nonsensical or just wrong, thus why the vast majority of the forum has you on block. Once I work out how to do it you can get back to chatting to yourself.
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