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Old 31st December 2015, 13:26   #141
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After 21 Test matches Bairstow has 6 fifties at an average of 28, Prior had 2 hundreds and 10 fifties at an average of 46 and 300 more runs, including rearguard innings against Murali and co in Sri Lanka.
I was in Chennai in 2008 when he played two pretty good innings in that game when he helped martial the tail very well while playing his shots. That was his comeback test after a year out of the side after his poor keeping tour to Sri Lanka. I never had too much doubt about his batting but it took until the 2009 Ashes until he put in a sustained improvement with his wicket-keeping form.

I have to confess that I'd been underwhelmed with Bairstow as a batsman in previous incarnations, that Lord's test v SA notwithstanding. I also didn't believe on the evidence of the Ashes tests and the first couple of matches of the Pakistan series that he had enough about him with regards to his defensive technique to cut it as a top order batsman.

That said he did battle away in the latter games and obviously had a good test with the bat in this game just gone. He's obviously going to get this whole series but a certain amount of his longetivity is going to be naturally based on how relatively error-less he is with the gloves in these matches to come.
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Old 31st December 2015, 14:23   #142
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After 21 Test matches Bairstow has 6 fifties at an average of 28, Prior had 2 hundreds and 10 fifties at an average of 46 and 300 more runs, including rearguard innings against Murali and co in Sri Lanka.
Those are mere Very Big Numbers. You must take a more holistic approach to special pleading.
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Old 1st January 2016, 10:39   #143
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Those are mere Very Big Numbers. You must take a more holistic approach to special pleading.
Indeed. D/L has already proven through his rigorous debating style that cricket statistics such as averages are merely a reflection of luck and therefore they are useless in assessing a players ability. Fortunately, he has devised a more robust, objective method: his own opinions.

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Old 1st January 2016, 10:50   #144
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After 21 Test matches Bairstow has 6 fifties at an average of 28, Prior had 2 hundreds and 10 fifties at an average of 46 and 300 more runs, including rearguard innings against Murali and co in Sri Lanka.
I realise it may be the case that, in the absence of anything else, it is very tempting to infer "facts" from figures. It can be a bit lazy to do so though.

It wouldn't go amiss to treat figures with a little caution sometimes. After all, we are usually talking about different opponents, different times and different conditions.

In this case, something figures do not reveal are Bairstow's relatively considered approach to the situation he finds himself in when at the crease.
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Old 1st January 2016, 13:18   #145
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I realise it may be the case that, in the absence of anything else, it is very tempting to infer "facts" from figures. It can be a bit lazy to do so though.

It wouldn't go amiss to treat figures with a little caution sometimes. After all, we are usually talking about different opponents, different times and different conditions.

In this case, something figures do not reveal are Bairstow's relatively considered approach to the situation he finds himself in when at the crease.
Watching him bat hasn't revealed such a considered approach either.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 00:56   #146
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The comments BTL of Mad Scyld Berry's latest Telegraph piece reveal a poster as mad as Scyld himself. Someonee called John Hatch reckons that Cook should have been sacked along with Moores after the WI tour and replaced as captain/wicket-keeper by the 37 year old Chris Read.
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The comments BTL of Mad Scyld Berry's latest Telegraph piece reveal a poster as mad as Scyld himself. Someonee called John Hatch reckons that Cook should have been sacked along with Moores after the WI tour and replaced as captain/wicket-keeper by the 37 year old Chris Read.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 01:16   #148
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The comments BTL of Mad Scyld Berry's latest Telegraph piece reveal a poster as mad as Scyld himself. Someonee called John Hatch reckons that Cook should have been sacked along with Moores after the WI tour and replaced as captain/wicket-keeper by the 37 year old Chris Read.
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Chris Read?? FFS - Jimmy Foster maybe (now that man is a ledge)....Dont get me started on Foster
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I realise it may be the case that, in the absence of anything else, it is very tempting to infer "facts" from figures. It can be a bit lazy to do so though.

It wouldn't go amiss to treat figures with a little caution sometimes. After all, we are usually talking about different opponents, different times and different conditions.

In this case, something figures do not reveal are Bairstow's relatively considered approach to the situation he finds himself in when at the crease.
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Watching him bat hasn't revealed such a considered approach either.
We were discussing Bairstow and Prior and the description was "relatively considered". Do try to keep up.
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The point still stands, as well as Bairstow is doing right now he is yet to show either the ability or application Prior did throughout his career with the bat. He's also equally as bad with the gloves as Mk 1 Prior was too.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 20:54   #151
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Bairstow batted well today, albeit protected by Stokes.
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Bairstow batted well today, albeit protected by Stokes.
He did very well. He did face several overs from Darren Stevens which helped him get his eye in.
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When he got in Amla bowled part timers for 10 overs. His captaincy today provocted a lot of head scratching.
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Bairstow batted well today, albeit protected by Stokes.
He certainly played second fiddle to Stokes but to suggest he was protected by him is absurd.
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He certainly played second fiddle to Stokes but to suggest he was protected by him is absurd.
I think it's an obscure bit of counter trolling.
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The point still stands, as well as Bairstow is doing right now he is yet to show either the ability or application Prior did throughout his career with the bat. He's also equally as bad with the gloves as Mk 1 Prior was too.
Wouldn't dispute the ability, but application? Prior? You cannot be serious.
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Wouldn't dispute the ability, but application? Prior? You cannot be serious.
True. Prior only played one way, it was 'the way he played'. But when he smashed a quick 30 or 40 to invigorate a stagnating innings towards the end he was praised for his unselfish batting. Sometimes it came off though, as when he saved the Auckland test 2012/13 with his 110*. He didn't change his approach one iota and benefited from dropped catches, streaky boundaries and the luck of the devil. But chutzpah can sometimes carry you through.
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Nice narrative but not sure it fits how Prior actually played. Given his batting position his innings would have come close to a declaration or when running out of partners so it's not a surprise many are at a high rate. But many of his 50s were at 3-4 an over which is hardly playing it one way. He's no Brian Lara but he's hardly a slogger.
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Looks like Buttler is going to play a lot for Lancashire this Summer.
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Hopefully this will be the breakthrough for Bairstow. Whether he'll keep the gloves permanently or not I can't say but he should look to secure his batting place now.
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