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Old 5th November 2015, 17:41   #61
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I've said it before but I'll say it again: India are poor and South Africa are very mediocre outside of de Villiers, Steyn, Amla and Morkel.
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Old 5th November 2015, 20:15   #62
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I've said it before but I'll say it again: India are poor and South Africa are very mediocre outside of de Villiers, Steyn, Amla and Morkel.
FAF is a decent enough player but yes, the SA side relies on its two world class batsmen and two world class bowlers. Not many sides in world cricket have any batting strength in depth at the moment though, do they? India might be the only one, in fact and only in the right conditions and its bowling attack is even more situational. This probably is that situation, mind.
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Old 5th November 2015, 21:08   #63
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Apparently the wicket is already dry and over done so ought to favour spin more as time goes on. At the risk of getting comments from DL that tell us more about him than about anyone else, I layed the draw on this game with India 3 down and have been delighted to see wickets tumble in clusters and heaps since.
I don;t think the pitch is that bad and we've seen recently how they can stay this way rather than deteriorate. I think a lot of the wickets today were down to rustiness and next innings will be better. Problem for you though is it's probably too late to salvage a draw.
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Old 5th November 2015, 21:41   #64
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Surprised if this test lasts 3 days.
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Old 5th November 2015, 21:50   #65
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Surprised if this test lasts 3 days.
It's not very differently poised to the game just completed in Sharjah and that lasted until the last afternoon
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Old 5th November 2015, 22:23   #66
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I don;t think the pitch is that bad and we've seen recently how they can stay this way rather than deteriorate. I think a lot of the wickets today were down to rustiness and next innings will be better. Problem for you though is it's probably too late to salvage a draw.
Not a problem for me at all. I layed the draw so win if there's a positive result. Having said that, the draw is now trading at 20 so I backed it for enough of a proportion of my profits that I'd now actually do better out of the draw. Not that it will be but gives me more trading flexibility.
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Old 6th November 2015, 06:49   #67
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When I saw Big Vern batting at 7, I assumed SA had an injured player but no, it's just a very long tail.
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Old 6th November 2015, 07:50   #68
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When I saw Big Vern batting at 7, I assumed SA had an injured player but no, it's just a very long tail.
I was just coming on to say that. He would bat 9 or 10 for us. I fancy us to beat saffers.

That steyn dismissal just now was impressive. Why is he doing that while batting with AB?
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Old 6th November 2015, 07:54   #69
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When I saw Big Vern batting at 7, I assumed SA had an injured player but no, it's just a very long tail.
Yeah, even worse than the Odis.
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Old 6th November 2015, 08:01   #70
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to think the saffers used to have lance k, pollock, kallis and boje as four of their five bowlers!
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Of course, duminy will be back from injury, hopefully for the next test.
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Of course, duminy will be back from injury, hopefully for the next test.
In for Harmer? Is Morne injured?
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In for Harmer? Is Morne injured?
I was thinking more for Tahir but we'll see how this innings pans out. I think Tahir would have been left out. I forgot about morkel. I'd assume he's injured too. Radaba did ok. Philly seems to have his mojo back too, did a nice job on jadeja with the old ball.
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Ravi Ashwin's 150th Test wicket, at the very competitive strike rate of 55.8 and decent average of just under 28...in both aspects, superior to the figures of most of the great Indian twirlers. He has a better batting average than Graeme Hick, an' all. Now, that's a genuine spinner who can bat a bit.
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Ravi Ashwin's 150th Test wicket, at the very competitive strike rate of 55.8 and decent average of just under 28...in both aspects, superior to the figures of most of the great Indian twirlers. He has a better batting average than Graeme Hick, an' all. Now, that's a genuine spinner who can bat a bit.
He's been a bit too much of a home track bully until recently and often only really duffing up some very poor visiting batsmen but he's shown recent improvement to say the least and looks a far better bowler than say 3 years ago. He's stopped mucking about with different types of deliveries and changes of action, some of which were possibly illegal.
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Not many sides in world cricket have any batting strength in depth at the moment though, do they? India might be the only one, in fact and only in the right conditions
And one of their openers is incredibly hit or miss. Just got a pair in a home Test!

What you really see is how batsmen across the world struggle increasingly away from home, outside of their comfort zone. Only the best cross the divide.
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And one of their openers is incredibly hit or miss. Just got a pair in a home Test!

What you really see is how batsmen across the world struggle increasingly away from home, outside of their comfort zone. Only the best cross the divide.
AB and Cook?
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AB and Cook?
Actually, as a sweeping home vs away comparison, all the South African batsmen tend to have a better away average. Comfort zones may be a different way of looking at it.
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In a few weeks time England will have to bowl at him. Can't be looking forward to it.
Every time de Villiers comes out to bat Cook will bring Broad on. He has him 7 times, most by any bowler.
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Ravi Ashwin's 150th Test wicket, at the very competitive strike rate of 55.8 and decent average of just under 28...in both aspects, superior to the figures of most of the great Indian twirlers. He has a better batting average than Graeme Hick, an' all. Now, that's a genuine spinner who can bat a bit.
I'm a bit surprised by that, he has always looked so ordinary.
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