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View Poll Results: Man of the match?
Nick Compton 9 34.62%
James Taylor 0 0%
Stuart Broad 6 23.08%
Moeen Ali 6 23.08%
Steven Finn 2 7.69%
Dean Elgar 3 11.54%
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Old 30th December 2015, 09:50   #1
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Man of the Match, 1st Test SA v Eng

Make your choice, there isn't a stand out candidate in this match. For anyone that says you need tons and five-fers to win matches - well SA had them, England didn't, and it wasn't even close
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Old 30th December 2015, 10:06   #2
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Moeen was the actual Man of the Match, presumably on getting the most wickets in total. I think going by impact I'd have Compton or Broad ahead of him.
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Old 30th December 2015, 10:12   #3
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Moeen was the actual Man of the Match, presumably on getting the most wickets in total. I think going by impact I'd have Compton or Broad ahead of him.
I voted for Broad on reasons I gave in the match thread. A decent lower order contribution taking England to 300 and then blowing their top order away. That for me had the biggest impact.

To expand upon this, although I do believe Compton had a good impact in that he did help steady England's ship, the fact that he fell quite early on the 2nd morning without adding much to his overnight score meant that England hadn't gone very far and it took Broad to help England cross what was an acceptable total in the circumstances to a good one. With his bowling he then turned it into a decisive one.
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Old 30th December 2015, 10:17   #4
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Make your choice, there isn't a stand out candidate in this match. For anyone that says you need tons and five-fers to win matches - well SA had them, England didn't, and it wasn't even close
Do you think maybe that's a generalisation that might not apply 100% of the time, or are we in Sir V binary mode for everything now?
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Old 30th December 2015, 10:21   #5
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Do you think maybe that's a generalisation that might not apply 100% of the time, or are we in Sir V binary mode for everything now?
It's an awful generalisation, but you still see it from time to time.
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It's an awful generalisation, but you still see it from time to time.
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Old 30th December 2015, 10:23   #7
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I chose Compton for holding the England innings together when we could have wobbled and also obviously the 40-odd in the 2nd innings. Although happy to see Mo get the award if we feel it gives his confidence a lift after the UAE.
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Compo or Broad. Not sure I can split 'em.
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I would have gone for Compton but have no qualms about Mo getting it. Broad and Finn could easily have bagged the award for their heroics on days 2 and 4 respectively. A fine all round team performance.
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OK It was a throwaway line to fill out the opening post, tbh......
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OK It was a throwaway line to fill out the opening post, tbh......
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It's an awful generalisation, but you still see it from time to time.
I suppose you'd expect it to apply less readily to a team that bats so far down and has 5+ bowlers.
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Test matches are mostly won in the first two innings'. For that reason Compton or Broad should have won MofM.
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Old 30th December 2015, 12:30   #14
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Broad and despite some good performances elsewhere (Elgar in particular but also Taylor, Compton, Bairstow (with the bat), Ali and Finn) I don't even think it's even that close. It was Broad who made the decisive contribution.

The critical innings in the match was South Africa's first innings. England had overcome unfavourable batting conditions to make a score probably around par. To the extent it was over par it was because of Broad's counter-attacking innings to take them over 300 after coming in after 3 wickets had fallen for 6 runs and left the innings tottering at 253-8.

Broad got them over 300 and then set the tone for the South African innings when he clean bowled van Zyl second ball.

The match was then won by his 4-25. Look at the batsmen he dismissed: de Villiers, Amla, van Zyl and Bavuma. Four of the top six, including all of their main men, for less then he scored with the bat to leave them 137-5. From there there was no comeback and England were firmly in the box-seat.
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Old 30th December 2015, 12:36   #15
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Top post, GBG.

I voted for Broad myself but Compton had a strong case as well imo.
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Gave it Elgar. Yes he was on the losing side but carrying one's bat is a rare occurence and he was head and shoulders ahead of any of his teammates, in fact of any of the batsmen on show. That it's hard to distinguish between several English players makes the decision easier for me.
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Broad and despite some good performances elsewhere (Elgar in particular but also Taylor, Compton, Bairstow (with the bat), Ali and Finn) I don't even think it's even that close. It was Broad who made the decisive contribution.

The critical innings in the match was South Africa's first innings. England had overcome unfavourable batting conditions to make a score probably around par. To the extent it was over par it was because of Broad's counter-attacking innings to take them over 300 after coming in after 3 wickets had fallen for 6 runs and left the innings tottering at 253-8.

Broad got them over 300 and then set the tone for the South African innings when he clean bowled van Zyl second ball.

The match was then won by his 4-25. Look at the batsmen he dismissed: de Villiers, Amla, van Zyl and Bavuma. Four of the top six, including all of their main men, for less then he scored with the bat to leave them 137-5. From there there was no comeback and England were firmly in the box-seat.
Your analysis massively underestimates the key role played by Woakes in facilitating the 137--5 situation. To be honest, it's a serious mistake for him not to be included on the list of MoM options available here. Also, the knowledge that he was there in the dressing room ready to stroll out to bat at no. 9 must have been a key factor in allowing Compton the freedom to score so quickly. Without Woakes he might have been out for 25 off 236 balls instead of 85 off 236 balls; and then England would hardly have had any first-innings lead at all.
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Broad and despite some good performances elsewhere (Elgar in particular but also Taylor, Compton, Bairstow (with the bat), Ali and Finn) I don't even think it's even that close. It was Broad who made the decisive contribution.

The critical innings in the match was South Africa's first innings. England had overcome unfavourable batting conditions to make a score probably around par. To the extent it was over par it was because of Broad's counter-attacking innings to take them over 300 after coming in after 3 wickets had fallen for 6 runs and left the innings tottering at 253-8.

Broad got them over 300 and then set the tone for the South African innings when he clean bowled van Zyl second ball.

The match was then won by his 4-25. Look at the batsmen he dismissed: de Villiers, Amla, van Zyl and Bavuma. Four of the top six, including all of their main men, for less then he scored with the bat to leave them 137-5. From there there was no comeback and England were firmly in the box-seat.
Think this is spot on. As I said on match thread, it's perfectly possible to make cases for Moeen or Compton (or Elgar but you have to stand out an awful long way if on the losing side, especially by such a big margin) but Broad's batting pushes him comfortably enough over the threshold for me, given that as you say, first innings set games up and Broad was a major contributor to ours being adequate and very much the main reason why theirs wasn't. Okay, taking 5 wickets in a match doesn't seem all that eye catching but 4/25 removing four top order batsmen is a pretty stern return.
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I was happy with Ali getting the award. Dismissing AB 3rd ball this morning after the mis-stumping yesterday was a real boost and he did take 7 wickets in the match. It could have gone to Compton but then you could point to Bairstow's 41and 79, both innings scored at a lively rate, and Broad and others. It was a really excellent all-round team performance.
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It was a balanced team effort, so no wonder it is a challenge to find the outstanding performance. Looking at the SA scores, it seems right to me that the bowling was the most decisive aspect of England's win. There was also no one decisive batting innings to recognize.

Finn, Broad and Ali all contributed significantly, sharing the wickets around, but on balance and with key wickets in both SA innings, Ali deserves to get the nod.
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