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Old 2nd January 2016, 14:51   #101
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Sorry everyone - I texted a friend to say I was sure Root was on for a big hundred... Clearly jinxed it!
You weren't alone. He does that quite often. A sublime 50. Apart from one very good short ball, no problem. Then something you would expect from a far worse bat.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 14:52   #102
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However, with the new ball coming around after 80 overs, there is the distinct likelihood of the innings wrapping up around 100 overs, so the rate is significant for the difference between say 325 or 375.
Again, I'm not sure you can make such a conclusion. New ball can bring quick runs if you want to go that way. And going for shots, as root did, against the old ball can bring wickets. You could just end up increasing the rate of wickets as well as runs. With SA not getting much from the ball, England could bat them out the game, slowly.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 14:52   #103
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Stokes is going to get loads today.
Did you read nealsteel's post?
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Old 2nd January 2016, 14:54   #104
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Would be amusing if we made fewer runs than in the Durban first innings.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 14:59   #105
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Did you read nealsteel's post?
Technically I didn't specify loads of what.

If I've jinxed him getting loads of "stick for getting out to a poor shot", then I'm happy.
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Stokes is itching to deposit van Zyl somewhere far away.

And I'm itching for him to do it. Can't stand floaty medium pace.
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Stokes is itching to deposit van Zyl somewhere far away.

And I'm itching for him to do it. Can't stand floaty medium pace.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 15:11   #108
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I mean that he could score a run a ball ton.
Yes, but he could also stuff the ball down long off's throat. I merely advise a certain amount of caution in these circumstances. Coming in at at 300 - 4 is this the time for a Stokes special. He just nearly got out to a Zyl long hop. Bairstow is the same; either can take the game very quickly. I would prefer them to be 280 - 5 at close than 320 for 8.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 15:14   #109
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Turn and bounce for the off spinner. Mo could get that elusive five fer and second mom award.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 15:17   #110
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Again, I'm not sure you can make such a conclusion. New ball can bring quick runs if you want to go that way. And going for shots, as root did, against the old ball can bring wickets. You could just end up increasing the rate of wickets as well as runs. With SA not getting much from the ball, England could bat them out the game, slowly.
Valid points, of course.

It is a balance, but sooner or later, if you don't find a spell to punish a tiring attack when the opportunity is ripe for the picking, you will succumb and leave runs on the table.

Stokes and Bairstow are good at putting bat to ball, but they will be up against the new ball very shortly. Something will have to give then.
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Stokes is itching to deposit van Zyl somewhere far away.

And I'm itching for him to do it. Can't stand floaty medium pace.
Bairstow is the same. They are both itching to deposit Piedt over table mountain too.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 15:33   #112
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Stokes is playing T20 (and I love it...)

Takes 17 off the first over with the new ball...
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Nice half ton from Stokes.
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Seems determined to play a shot a ball until he gets out...

Of course, if he brings up a ton beforehand no-one will complain
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Bairstow and Stokes have done a good job with their partnership to milk the spinners and the secondary bowlers, ensuring they were around to tackle the new ball.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 15:41   #116
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Stokes is taking the shine of the new ball.
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Brilliant counter attack from Stokes and Bairstow. Morris is really going around the park now.
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Some question about Morkel possibly being a bit crocked? The attritional efforts earlier will have paid off, if so.

England have got themselves into a great place to press home the advantage now, so questioning the earlier tactics is looking rather irrelevant.
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This attack and pitch is perfect for stokes to play a special.
Given I am fine to admit when I am wrong, I expect several signatures to include reference to me calling this perfect for stokes as he faced his third ball?
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Given I am fine to admit when I am wrong, I expect several signatures to include reference to me calling this perfect for stokes as he faced his third ball?
New year, new signature.
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