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Old 2nd January 2016, 17:11   #121
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28 overs of spin and medium pace filth and they still couldn't bowl 90 overs despite the extra half hour. That is diabolical.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 17:16   #122
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Can anyone explain South Africa's planning in that last session? They got Root's wicket and immediately switched to a part-timer. Alright, they've only got three seamers and they've all bowled their fair share, so they're saving up for the new ball. But then Morkel only gets one over at the end of the day, and as soon as Stokes attacks they're immediately back on the defensive with fielders back.

Compounding this is the terrible over rate, which meant that even with an extra half hour, SA lost two overs with the new ball.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 17:20   #123
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Can anyone explain South Africa's planning in that last session? They got Root's wicket and immediately switched to a part-timer. Alright, they've only got three seamers and they've all bowled their fair share, so they're saving up for the new ball. But then Morkel only gets one over at the end of the day, and as soon as Stokes attacks they're immediately back on the defensive with fielders back.

Compounding this is the terrible over rate, which meant that even with an extra half hour, SA lost two overs with the new ball.
That was bizarre. Amla bottled it as soon as we attacked. The bowling of overs 65 to 80 are where you need a viable option of a fifth bowler or a spin bowler who can actually turn the ball.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 17:21   #124
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Can anyone explain South Africa's planning in that last session? They got Root's wicket and immediately switched to a part-timer. Alright, they've only got three seamers and they've all bowled their fair share, so they're saving up for the new ball. But then Morkel only gets one over at the end of the day, and as soon as Stokes attacks they're immediately back on the defensive with fielders back.

Compounding this is the terrible over rate, which meant that even with an extra half hour, SA lost two overs with the new ball.
I get the impression that Amla is much better suited to batting, and when not batting, walking about the field thinking about his batting. This captaincy lark has been put upon him and isn't a very good idea.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 17:39   #125
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I get the impression that Amla is much better suited to batting, and when not batting, walking about the field thinking about his batting. This captaincy lark has been put upon him and isn't a very good idea.
Shades of Chanderpaul's stint as WI captain - another magnificent but introverted batsmen getting thrust into a role he wasn't keen on. de Villiers seems a more natural leader of men.
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Good day for England. Could be 350 or 450 total. Great sight, 10 K England fans in such a fine setting.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 17:58   #127
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The result for England could hardly have been better by the end of the day. Stokes and Bairstow producing that partnership tilted the balance in excellent fashion, and deflated SA who had hung in very well until the final session.

I hope Stokes can complete a well-earned ton in the morning. The odds on him doing so are not particularly good, but 400 looks the minimum we ought to be expecting from this point.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 18:06   #128
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Some question about Morkel possibly being a bit crocked? The attritional efforts earlier will have paid off, if so.

England have got themselves into a great place to press home the advantage now, so questioning the earlier tactics is looking rather irrelevant.
Think Morkel just bowled like Steve Harmison on a bad day. Bravada(?) was good. Morris respectable at times. 2 quick wickets for SA early doors and the ball is back in their court. 00+ for 5 is not bad for England on a first day track for England. Still think it is a 450-500 track.
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I've been otherwise busy for most of the day after catching most of the first session. Anyway I was irregularly checking the score and I caught that we had got to 240 odd for 5 and was thinking that we might have mucked things up. However I had forgotten that the slightly later start had meant there was still time and it appears that Stokes has now given England the initiative. It is time to see an England century though

Unless my memory fails me, there hasn't been an England century since Cook's long vigil in the first test v Pakistan. Although it is good that collectively England have got enough runs over the last couple of tests, a truly dominant knock will leave England in complete control here.
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I've been otherwise busy for most of the day after catching most of the first session. Anyway I was irregularly checking the score and I caught that we had got to 240 odd for 5 and was thinking that we might have mucked things up. However I had forgotten that the slightly later start had meant there was still time and it appears that Stokes has now given England the initiative. It is time to see an England century though

Unless my memory fails me, there hasn't been an England century since Cook's long vigil in the first test v Pakistan. Although it is good that collectively England have got enough runs over the last couple of tests, a truly dominant knock will leave England in complete control here.
You have no idea how much I want stokes to play that knock!
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You have no idea how much I want stokes to play that knock!
Have you got money on it? I'm quite a big Stokes fan. He hasn't achieved all he could by any means but he really does have special performances in him with either bat or ball.
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Have you got money on it? I'm quite a big Stokes fan. He hasn't achieved all he could by any means but he really does have special performances in him with either bat or ball.
Nope. After two balls I wrote on here that this pitch and attack are perfect for a stokes special.
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I was well impressed with Rabada today, has certainly got speed. Morris on the other hand looked no better a prospect than Abbot.
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Somebody said the average first day score at Newlands is 272-7, so England have over achieved.
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Think Morkel just bowled like Steve Harmison on a bad day. Bravada(?) was good. Morris respectable at times. 2 quick wickets for SA early doors and the ball is back in their court. 00+ for 5 is not bad for England on a first day track for England. Still think it is a 450-500 track.
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Nope. After two balls I wrote on here that this pitch and attack are perfect for a stokes special.
You also said that England would get 350 minimum by implying Piedt would go for loads (he was pretty economical, at least compared to what one might expect from a wicket-threatening legspinner in the UAE).

Stokes and Johnny B have regained the initiative in that last hour, albeit helped by some wayward bowling at the end. England should look to push to 450 but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up less than 400. Might still be enough in the blistering heat at Newlands.
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Did anyone see the ball from Piedt just before the new ball that turned and bounced a mile, eluding both Bairstow and QDK? It bodes well if England can push up towards 400. It'll be interesting to see how Stokes plays it in the morning. Will he go from ball 1 or try to play himself in for 20-30 minutes?
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Did anyone see the ball from Piedt just before the new ball that turned and bounced a mile, eluding both Bairstow and QDK? It bodes well if England can push up towards 400. It'll be interesting to see how Stokes plays it in the morning. Will he go from ball 1 or try to play himself in for 20-30 minutes?
I think if it's there to hit, he will hit it. He is a very impressive cricketer.
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You also said that England would get 350 minimum by implying Piedt would go for loads (he was pretty economical, at least compared to what one might expect from a wicket-threatening legspinner in the UAE).

Stokes and Johnny B have regained the initiative in that last hour, albeit helped by some wayward bowling at the end. England should look to push to 450 but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up less than 400. Might still be enough in the blistering heat at Newlands.
Prove we would not have got 350 if saffers bowled all their overs

Although I did not expect hales to score at the same speed as compo once in. Three innings and compo not scored slower yet!
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Did anyone see the ball from Piedt just before the new ball that turned and bounced a mile, eluding both Bairstow and QDK? It bodes well if England can push up towards 400. It'll be interesting to see how Stokes plays it in the morning. Will he go from ball 1 or try to play himself in for 20-30 minutes?
I did. I commented on it on here saying turn and bounce for spinner is very dangerous for saffers with mo bowling last. I went and said a prayer for jock just in case mo wins is another match.
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I think if it's there to hit, he will hit it. He is a very impressive cricketer.
Yup. He bats like lower middle order should. I have still not got over Taylor though. Bizarre.
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