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Old 5th July 2007, 12:29   #61
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Oh, fair enough. For decades the world produced lots of great bowlers without the help of biomechanists etc. and there are far too many people out there trying to make a simple task complicated. And the amount of fast bowlers who spend most of their time injured doesn't seem to have dimished either. Plunkett looks like a bowler whose action has been over-coached and still isn't stable.
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Old 5th July 2007, 13:39   #62
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I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be cyclical - you get a crop of good young bowler with unsustainable actions who bowl really well and end up getting serious long term gets injuries. We’ll then go to the other extreme of over-coaching young bowlers out of their natural actions as we presently do.

That’s why when you get a good bowler with a natural action (ie McGrath) they are invariably worth their weight in gold
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Old 5th July 2007, 14:02   #63
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I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be cyclical - you get a crop of good young bowler with unsustainable actions who bowl really well and end up getting serious long term gets injuries. We’ll then go to the other extreme of over-coaching young bowlers out of their natural actions as we presently do.

That’s why when you get a good bowler with a natural action (ie McGrath) they are invariably worth their weight in gold
The problem is though, the information that you keep hearing from these sodding bio-mechanists seems to change radically after a while. Nowdays they are moving back to the idea that side on actions are better.
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Old 5th July 2007, 15:07   #64
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Yes either that or you solve one problem and end up creating another - Mike Selvey was saying that Plunketts changed action will lead to ankle problems in the future.

I think the best bet it to leave bowlers to their natural actions and control the amount they bowl as with Malinga or Tait.
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Old 5th July 2007, 15:45   #65
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Meanwhile, another of England's pacemen, Stuart Broad, was reprimanded for wearing a visible white lycra bodysuit under his coloured one-day uniform.

I have seen quite a few players wear skins that don't match the colour of their kit.
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Old 5th July 2007, 16:05   #66
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Meanwhile, another of England's pacemen, Stuart Broad, was reprimanded for wearing a visible white lycra bodysuit under his coloured one-day uniform.

I have seen quite a few players wear skins that don't match the colour of their kit.
Have they got nothing better to think about? White is one of the colours on the one day strip. Mainly blue, some red and flashes of white on collar, sleeve and trousers, as well as the white lettering. This is bureaucracy gone mad. I noticed that Bell wore a red coloured skin yesterday, I do hope it was the right shade of red.
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Is black part of the West Indies colours?
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Old 5th July 2007, 19:17   #68
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Well, the beeb says...

''Another of England's pace bowlers, Stuart Broad, was reprimanded for wearing a white lycra bodysuit under his coloured one-day uniform.

That contravened regulations which ban any type of visible white clothing in matches played with white balls.''

Nothing about it having to match the colour of their kits...
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Well, the beeb says...

''Another of England's pace bowlers, Stuart Broad, was reprimanded for wearing a white lycra bodysuit under his coloured one-day uniform.

That contravened regulations which ban any type of visible white clothing in matches played with white balls.''

Nothing about it having to match the colour of their kits...
That's all very well but what about this? Bright white gloves and wristband.

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According to the ICC Clothing Regulations - Wrist Bands and Head Bands -Plain coloured other than white or any light colour.
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Is that a wristband? Pretty bloody big and it's around his forearm not his wrist. Noticed KP and Anderson both had strapping round their left arms yesterday. Are those both injuries or is there some sort of bandage fetish going on in the England camp?
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Those are wrist bands though not many wear them around their wrists. I think it is to mop their brows. Then there was a time when fielders used those stretchy tubes round their elbows for protection when fielding. Cook was wearing one yesterday. What happens when an elbow is strapped (see pic of Tait on our banner)?
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Old 5th July 2007, 21:51   #73
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Doesn't KP have a tattoo on his forearm which needs covering up. Anderson normally wears black wrist so not sure what why he was wearing white ones. they could of cause given themselves friction burns diving in the field so are wearing bandages to protect them.
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Is that a wristband? Pretty bloody big and it's around his forearm not his wrist. Noticed KP and Anderson both had strapping round their left arms yesterday. Are those both injuries or is there some sort of bandage fetish going on in the England camp?
I probably should have called it a sweat band. Although I recall Nasser Hussain wearing some kind of band just beneath his elbow for some physiological reason.

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Anyway it's all ridiculous. If they are going to have silly rules about the colour of clothing worn they should be consistent. And perhaps it would help if the players knew the rules.
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I probably should have called it a sweat band. Although I recall Nasser Hussain wearing some kind of band just beneath his elbow for some physiological reason.
That was for his tennis elbow. It must have helped because he always had it on. Maybe Tendulkar should have tried it.

Next it will be no jewellry and tattoos to be covered. There are not meant to be any other logos than specified and no writing on any equipment but I guess they missed Hoggards 55WTB on his armguard.
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Anyway it's all ridiculous. If they are going to have silly rules about the colour of clothing worn they should be consistent. And perhaps it would help if the players knew the rules.
Hang on... Are you saying Asif is innocent?
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That was for his tennis elbow. It must have helped because he always had it on. Maybe Tendulkar should have tried it.

Next it will be no jewellry and tattoos to be covered. There are not meant to be any other logos than specified and no writing on any equipment but I guess they missed Hoggards 55WTB on his armguard.

That's cos he wasn't there long enough...
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Hang on... Are you saying Asif is innocent?
.. perhaps it would help if the players knew the rules about clothing that can be worn. OK?
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I think Broad has cemented his place in the ODI squad and if Harmison gets injured will get his chance in the Tests.
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