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Old 10th September 2007, 18:54   #141
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Glad you had such a fab night EC!!! Lucky you!!!!

Ali is better looking in RL but looks so young!!!!!

I am so old mind.

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Old 29th September 2007, 19:37   #142
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Thought I'd rescue this thread from going off the bottom of the 2nd page! Interesting to see what Ali got up to whilst the rest of the boys were in South Africa. One of the best challenges so far and definitely worth a look. I really didn't think Alistair was a true Essex boy but maybe he does have it in him!
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Old 30th September 2007, 13:00   #143
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Or you could mention his 66 in 88 balls in England's warm-up win.
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Old 30th September 2007, 13:18   #144
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Or you could mention his 66 in 88 balls in England's warm-up win.


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Old 8th October 2007, 00:00   #145
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Really really worried about cookie's form against Vaas. He has a major flaw in his technique and bowlers around the world have worked it out. I wonder if the selectors will drop him for the next 2 ODI's. But who do they replace him with?
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Old 8th October 2007, 00:40   #146
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Really really worried about cookie's form against Vaas. He has a major flaw in his technique and bowlers around the world have worked it out. I wonder if the selectors will drop him for the next 2 ODI's. But who do they replace him with?
You can't keep changing the team. I'm sure he will sort himself out.
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Old 8th October 2007, 09:05   #147
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I'm surprised Goochy hasn't been over there post haste to sort his two Essex boys out and buy them a brand new car each.

Anyway none of the top four have exactly covered themselves in glory at the moment have they? Pietersen especially and you wouldn't consider dropping him.
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Old 8th October 2007, 11:03   #148
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You can't keep changing the team. I'm sure he will sort himself out.
Waht? They've kept an unchanged team for the first three games, and they largely kept with the same team during the last series against India. I'm liking the continuity Moores has brought to the ODI team, and believe we're starting to see the results, but you can't keep carrying Cook, you have to make a change for his good as well as ours. His last six scores have been 0, 4, 0, 46 (at a very slow rate), 1, and 0. Neither bringing Wright in or shuffling the order to promote Bell are ideal, but something has to be done.
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The top 4 has been a bit disappointing but it has looked very tricky to bat in Dambulla, thankfully we've got away with it due to the strong lower-middle order and quality bowling. I don't really see many better options than Cook for the role currently in the squad so would be inclined to keep him. I've often thought that Cook was struggling and probably in need of a break but then ends up contributing, hopefully he can do if the Colombo pitches prove to be better than the Dambulla one
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Waht? They've kept an unchanged team for the first three games, and they largely kept with the same team during the last series against India. I'm liking the continuity Moores has brought to the ODI team, and believe we're starting to see the results, but you can't keep carrying Cook, you have to make a change for his good as well as ours. His last six scores have been 0, 4, 0, 46 (at a very slow rate), 1, and 0. Neither bringing Wright in or shuffling the order to promote Bell are ideal, but something has to be done.
I am talking about all the chopping and changing in the past. We only have 4 players who have played more than 50 ODIs. Drop Cook for the next game and then after that game drop someone else and on it goes.

None of the top four have got many runs on both sides. Our lower order are carrying the top order. That's how it goes but it won't always be so. As for 46 at a very slow rate, what else could he do with wickets falling the other end? He was the top scorer with the others 27, 0, 1, 9, 7, 27*, 24, 1,2, 0.
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While I agree about chopping and changing FBU, Cook may be a special case in that he has been effectively "jemmied" into the one day side based on test performances. It is something of a leap of faith - and an average of 26 at a SR of 70 shows he has some way to go before he justifies it.
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Old 8th October 2007, 14:25   #152
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While I agree about chopping and changing FBU, Cook may be a special case in that he has been effectively "jemmied" into the one day side based on test performances. It is something of a leap of faith - and an average of 26 at a SR of 70 shows he has some way to go before he justifies it.
It maybe a leap of faith, but so was picking the likes of Panesar and Bell.

Panesar has just 36 List A wickets in 37 games. 25 of his 37 List A games were ODIs.
Bell has, despite playing up the order, only three List A hundreds in 142 innnings.
Cook has just 2 List A hundreds (and only 4 List A 50s) but has played just 42 innings, 14 of which were ODIs.

Cook's 100 against India showed me that he has what it takes. The question is whether he's so out of form that he needs some rest and some work in the nets (particularly against left-armers), rather than whether to jettison him from the one-day scene.
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Old 8th October 2007, 14:29   #153
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Your figures make the point - unlike Bell, Cook had very little one day experience even for Essex. Panesar shows how lack of experience can tell against you.
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Old 8th October 2007, 14:32   #154
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While I agree about chopping and changing FBU, Cook may be a special case in that he has been effectively "jemmied" into the one day side based on test performances. It is something of a leap of faith - and an average of 26 at a SR of 70 shows he has some way to go before he justifies it.
At least he has got his first ODI century unlike Vaughan who is still waiting after 86 games. Hussain also took a long time.

Cook is very new to ODIs and this is his first tour. Andy Flower should be able to help him work out where he is going wrong. If this was a Test he would be having the same problem at the moment. It's not because it is an ODI that he is not getting many runs.
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Driving is not one of Cooks strong points ... thats his biggest ODI problem .. and I would suggest his defense is not as good as it should be .. he can get away without having the drive in his tool-kit for Tests because he can just wait and wait and wait (which he does very well) for 1) crap on his pads 2) short balls that he can pull 3) short and wide balls he can cut .. beautifully simplistic and effective in Tests but inadequate for ODI's ..
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Surely we have a better OD opener than Cook .
We do but he is mentally unfit to play for England
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The top 4 has been a bit disappointing but it has looked very tricky to bat in Dambulla, thankfully we've got away with it due to the strong lower-middle order and quality bowling. I don't really see many better options than Cook for the role currently in the squad so would be inclined to keep him. I've often thought that Cook was struggling and probably in need of a break but then ends up contributing, hopefully he can do if the Colombo pitches prove to be better than the Dambulla one
I think the Colombo pitches do have a bit more bounce which might (fingers crossed) suit Cook's ability to play the pull shots. But its the bowls at a nagging length that Vaas is so good at bowling that gets him into trouble. Hopefully Andy Flower can help him out and get his confidence back.
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Old 9th October 2007, 00:12   #159
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Indeed quite impressed with the footie skills of Broad and Jimmy too.
How about the Car Stunt??? My god he's brave!!!! I was holding on to the edge of my seat when I was watching.. Terry Grant would have had a lot to answer for if anything happened to Cookie..
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I would like to think so, but in honesty i am not sure.

A hundred is a hundred nonetheless, however it was a flat wicket and cant expect to play on featherbeds every game. Just look how he has been found out in Sri Lanka.

But just because he it a hundred I dont think it has cemented his place in the team.

I would open with Wright, although Wright and Mustard opening, i cannot see a huge opening partnership round the corner!
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