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Old 13th March 2008, 18:25   #161
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It's not just from meeting him once. It's from watching him bowl, seeing his whole demeanour, sitting through those cringeworthy interviews. He's never impressed me with any aspect of his game other than his application.
I think the ability to shine in interview is absolutely irrelevant when judging a player's cricketing skills. On that basis Vaughan's phony glottal stops and reference to himself in the third person should disqualify him from captaining England, and Anderson's inability to form a coherent sentence should mean he never bowls a ball for England ever again. But then again, perhaps he won't after this test match.
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Old 14th March 2008, 01:37   #162
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Bob Willis was never really laugh a minute in his post match interviews either. And Alec Stewart was as bland as they come. Good players though.
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Old 14th March 2008, 01:41   #163
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I think the ability to shine in interview is absolutely irrelevant when judging a player's cricketing skills. On that basis Vaughan's phony glottal stops and reference to himself in the third person should disqualify him from captaining England, and Anderson's inability to form a coherent sentence should mean he never bowls a ball for England ever again. But then again, perhaps he won't after this test match.
But he's our spin bowler!

Gah, I'll shut up.
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Old 14th March 2008, 15:26   #164
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Requirements of an English spinner iin order of priority: bat well at number 8 or above; field well; provide incisive analysis and excellent entertainment during the post match interview; take a couple of wickets with the bowling every now and then.
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Old 15th March 2008, 05:59   #165
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It's not just from meeting him once. It's from watching him bowl, seeing his whole demeanour, sitting through those cringeworthy interviews. He's never impressed me with any aspect of his game other than his application.
IGHOLS, you disappoint me. Have you not seen Monty bat? He batted with a flourish which shouted out individuality. He expresses himself with his bat. Why judge him from mere words, when you can see the artist in him with the willow?
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Old 15th March 2008, 07:47   #166
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IGHOLS, you disappoint me. Have you not seen Monty bat? He batted with a flourish which shouted out individuality. He expresses himself with his bat. Why judge him from mere words, when you can see the artist in him with the willow?
Come off it gbg. Monty's batting is no more than workmanlike itself. For real artistry and expression with the willow you want the master himself, Chris Martin.
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Old 15th March 2008, 14:25   #167
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Requirements of an English spinner iin order of priority: bat well at number 8 or above; field well; provide incisive analysis and excellent entertainment during the post match interview; take a couple of wickets with the bowling every now and then.
If so, why are we playing monty?
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His fielding has been embarrassing in this match.
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Old 16th March 2008, 00:30   #169
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Cross post but worth saying again, I think:

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Yes, it's worth noting that those of us who said Fletcher probably had a point about Panesar all along and that his comments in his book about finger spinners in general were at worst not far from the mark are looking wiser than those who backed Panesar to the very hilt, at present. Of course, that's exactly the kind of thing I'd be expected to say.
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Old 16th March 2008, 00:50   #170
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I'm rather worried about Bumble who seems to have retained that rather patronising, indulgent view of Monty's fielding that was prevalent when he first came into the team. It doesn't help that Monty is doing his best to resurrect that view by his appalling misfields. He has put in a lot of work over the last couple of years and seemed to be making progress but suddenly he's back to square one, no idea why.
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He has put in a lot of work over the last couple of years and seemed to be making progress but suddenly he's back to square one, no idea why.
New coach.
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His Englands fielding has been embarrassing in this match for a long long time.
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Old 16th March 2008, 11:39   #173
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MF would not have missed the apostrophe out of England's and would probably have inserted a comma between the two longs. It's not even all that true, either, given that the fielding was awesome as recently as the last test. Yes, it's been a problem on and off since Tres left the side and worse since Flintoff has been injured.
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MF would not have missed the apostrophe out of England's and would probably have inserted a comma between the two longs. It's not even all that true, either, given that the fielding was awesome as recently as the last test. Yes, it's been a problem on and off since Tres left the side and worse since Flintoff has been injured.
**** me, your mood certainly is brooding isn't it. Some people are too pedantic for their own good. Last time i checked this was an internet based cricket forum, not English class at a secondary modern.
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**** me, your mood certainly is brooding isn't it. Some people are too pedantic for their own good. Last time i checked this was an internet based cricket forum, not English class at a secondary modern.
Doubt secondary modern English classes were that exacting. I wouldn't normally bother but you were writing as MF and she's the board's resident chief pedant (beating off some stiff competition).

The mood's been brooding for ages now. It's not necessarily accurate but I like the picture and there's a bit of history to it so I'll stick it out for the time being.
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That was so good you posted it twice.
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That was so good you posted it twice.
I hate the board at the moment. It was true enough though.
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A spinner is usually going to make much more of an impact in the second innings than the first, and often the pitch won't really help the spinner at any point in the match. This means that there are going to be many days where he doesn't have much chance to justify his selection with the ball.
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A spinner is usually going to make much more of an impact in the second innings than the first, and often the pitch won't really help the spinner at any point in the match. This means that there are going to be many days where he doesn't have much chance to justify his selection with the ball.
For finger spin that's true, which was Fletcher's point, if I recall correctly.
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Doubt secondary modern English classes were that exacting. I wouldn't normally bother but you were writing as MF and she's the board's resident chief pedant (beating off some stiff competition).

The mood's been brooding for ages now. It's not necessarily accurate but I like the picture and there's a bit of history to it so I'll stick it out for the time being.
As long as its not in our direction.
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