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Old 21st April 2008, 13:40   #1
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England Performance Squad...

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/co...ry/347210.html

This thing always seems a tad pointless but interesting to see Key and Carberry in there...
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This thing always seems a tad pointless but interesting to see Key and Carberry in there...
Well its the perfect to get set up for the next level of international cricket
well done to Key and Tredwell, and of course to everyone else who made it int othe selection
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Old 21st April 2008, 14:02   #3
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The first form of England recognition for a long time for Key. Thought they might have (unjustifiably) cast him aside. The inclusion of him and Carberry shows that the selectors are at least looking at how Strauss or Vaughan could be replaced, if required.
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Old 21st April 2008, 14:12   #4
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Key's become one of theose players that provides the backbone of county cricket. I think he's developed a lot both as player and person.
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Old 21st April 2008, 14:30   #5
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This thing always seems a tad pointless but interesting to see Key and Carberry in there...
Mark Davies would have been in there if he were not so injury-prone. How far Liam Plunkett and Mahmood have fallen.
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Old 21st April 2008, 14:31   #6
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Yes, most unfortunate. But Broad has overtaken them both. that's life.
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Old 21st April 2008, 14:44   #7
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They have picked the Test squad, the ODI squad and added Rashid, Carberry and Key.

The players that fell away from the original 2005 squad were Butcher, Thorpe, Solanki, Batty, Ali, Wharf, Gough. From the 2006 squad GJones, Giles, Read, Blackwell, Loudon, Clarke and from the 2007 squad -

Joyce
SJones
Plunkett
Dalrymple
Onions
Trott
Mahmood
Lewis
Nixon
Yardy.

Last year is was 10 fast bowlers and this year 6 and they have gone for an extra spinner and and extra keeper.

The players that have stayed in the Performance Squad since the beginning, 05/06/07/08 have been Strauss, Vaughan, Flintoff, Hoggard, Harmison, Anderson, Bell, Pietersen and Collingwood.
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Old 21st April 2008, 14:59   #8
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Looks like some insurance policies being taken out.
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Old 21st April 2008, 15:04   #9
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The big losers appear to be Ed Joyce and Michael Yardy, who despite touring with the Lions find their Lions team-mate Carberry leap-frogging them. Carberry's selection appears to be the main story for me.

Matt Prior is no doubt relieved to find that he isn't totally out of the reckoning and is in as one of three keepers.

The only other eyebrow raising item is that Stuart Broad has not been given a 6 month central contract. Young fast bowlers were exactly the type of players the central contracts were designed to protect. The fashionable way of thinking is that central contracts have gone too far the other way, and they need to play more, but this could have still been done within the structure of the central contract system. I wonder if this is a financial decision or a policy decision (I wouldn't have thought it was a player evaluation decision).
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Old 21st April 2008, 15:12   #10
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This thing always seems a tad pointless but interesting to see Key and Carberry in there...
I find these more interesting than the test squad selection, as the actual test squad is more often than not blindingly obvious.

This shows us who is on the fringes of the selectors' thoughts, should our batting line-up continue to falter or all our bowlers become crocked again.
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Old 21st April 2008, 15:29   #11
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I find these more interesting than the test squad selection, as the actual test squad is more often than not blindingly obvious.

This shows us who is on the fringes of the selectors' thoughts, should our batting line-up continue to falter or all our bowlers become crocked again.

Agree with that. Re your point about Broad, have they decided on summer contracts yet?
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The big losers appear to be Ed Joyce and Michael Yardy, who despite touring with the Lions find their Lions team-mate Carberry leap-frogging them. Carberry's selection appears to be the main story for me.

Matt Prior is no doubt relieved to find that he isn't totally out of the reckoning and is in as one of three keepers.

The only other eyebrow raising item is that Stuart Broad has not been given a 6 month central contract. Young fast bowlers were exactly the type of players the central contracts were designed to protect. The fashionable way of thinking is that central contracts have gone too far the other way, and they need to play more, but this could have still been done within the structure of the central contract system. I wonder if this is a financial decision or a policy decision (I wouldn't have thought it was a player evaluation decision).
The thing is that Carberry was top in the averages in both forms of the game whereas Joyce didn't do as well in the one day matches.

I think Broad will definitely get a contract in September. When the last lot of contracts were given Broad had not played any Test cricket and Harmison looked as if he was going to play in all the upcoming Tests. They have only given out 6 month contracts twice at the beginnning of the summer, once in 2003 and 2004.
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Old 21st April 2008, 15:43   #13
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Agree with that. Re your point about Broad, have they decided on summer contracts yet?
Apparently so.

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Twelve of the 26 players in the squad are currently on 12-month ECB contracts, including Steve Harmison and Matthew Hoggard, who were dropped from the Test side during last month's tour of New Zealand, but the selectors decided against awarding any six-month contracts - not even to Stuart Broad and Tim Ambrose, the two young players who impressed the most in the Test series.
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They have picked the Test squad, the ODI squad and added Rashid, Carberry and Key.

The players that fell away from the original 2005 squad were Butcher, Thorpe, Solanki, Batty, Ali, Wharf, Gough. From the 2006 squad GJones, Giles, Read, Blackwell, Loudon, Clarke and from the 2007 squad -

Joyce
SJones
Plunkett
Dalrymple
Onions
Trott
Mahmood
Lewis
Nixon
Yardy.


Last year is was 10 fast bowlers and this year 6 and they have gone for an extra spinner and and extra keeper.

The players that have stayed in the Performance Squad since the beginning, 05/06/07/08 have been Strauss, Vaughan, Flintoff, Hoggard, Harmison, Anderson, Bell, Pietersen and Collingwood.
Not really huge losses to be honest. I think it's wise that they forget about Plunkett and Mahmood altogether for a couple of years so they can work away from the limelight. I can't find fault with any of the selection which is an odd thing to say when it comes to England. Could be coincidence that Graveney isn't involved this time.
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The Lions play in a couple of weeks. Interesting which bowlers get picked. The rest really picks itself, although NZ will be absolute pony with everyone in India

Key, Carbs, Shah, Bops, Prior, Flintoff, Wright, Rashid, Tremlett, Hoggard, Harmison possibly
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The Lions play in a couple of weeks. Interesting which bowlers get picked. The rest really picks itself, although NZ will be absolute pony with everyone in India

Key, Carbs, Shah, Bops, Prior, Flintoff, Wright, Rashid, Tremlett, Hoggard, Harmison possibly
Sounds about right I think. I hope they don't give Mustard the gloves anyway...
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The Lions play in a couple of weeks. Interesting which bowlers get picked. The rest really picks itself, although NZ will be absolute pony with everyone in India

Key, Carbs, Shah, Bops, Prior, Flintoff, Wright, Rashid, Tremlett, Hoggard, Harmison possibly
Interesting all-round team there - at least at county level, that's 8 front line batsmen and 6 3/4 front line bowlers
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With GoJo in for Shah...
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The Lions play in a couple of weeks. Interesting which bowlers get picked. The rest really picks itself, although NZ will be absolute pony with everyone in India

Key, Carbs, Shah, Bops, Prior, Flintoff, Wright, Rashid, Tremlett, Hoggard, Harmison possibly
Is the game being played when there are no county games on? If not, I doubt all the counties will agree to release them. Great team though.
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