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Old 6th July 2008, 23:01   #101
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Did who look good at Lords?
Godleman. I wasn't going to be asking you about Chin, now was I?
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Old 6th July 2008, 23:04   #102
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Godleman. I wasn't going to be asking you about Chin, now was I?
I haven't seen Godleman play at Lords. I haven't seen much of him at all to be honest, but he's someone with a very good pedigree (England u-19 etc) who is highly regarded and seems to be scoring well.
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Old 6th July 2008, 23:07   #103
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I haven't seen Godleman play at Lords. I haven't seen much of him at all to be honest, but he's someone with a very good pedigree (England u-19 etc) who is highly regarded and seems to be scoring well.
The last few posts, ladies and gentlemen, demonstrate the sound of what could have been a running gag tripping over and landing very hard on its face.
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Old 6th July 2008, 23:08   #104
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Interesting that Piper doesnt rate read as the best pure keeper in the country - let alone the entire universe.
Well he's wrong then!
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Old 6th July 2008, 23:15   #105
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Well he's wrong then!
Ah, another impartial and balanced view.
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Old 6th July 2008, 23:15   #106
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Presumably the likes of Saj Mahmood and Simon Jones would be with the full strength team?

Otherwise I like that team, although Prior, Broad and possibly Bopara, should be with the first team. You are probably a batsman light, so I'd suggest Billy Godleman.
This is all hypothetical but I'd picked my 14 based on the idea that England would have a small squad for the short two test series in India. In retrospect, Prior, rather than Shah, may well be selected for such a squad as he provides cover for two positions.

Vaughan*
Cook
Strauss
Pietersen
Bell
Collingwood
Prior
Ambrose+
Flintoff
Jones
Sidebottom
Panesar
Anderson

A revised 15 would probably look like:

Key*
Denly
Bopara
Patel
Shah
Morgan
Hildreth
Foster+
Wright
Rashid
Bresnan
Plunkett
Broad
Tremlett
Onions

It doesn't matter anyway. England don't seem to pay proper attention to 'A' tours... and we'll probably have a squad of 15 for the tests in India.

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Does Foster contribute enough with the bat though?
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Does Foster contribute enough with the bat though?
Does any keeper other than Prior contribute enough with the bat?
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please not Foster, it angers me how he is so hyped up!!!

and why did my post full of beautiful suggestions sink the the last post of the page, this also angers me!!
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Chris Read would probably be a better choice but if I'd put him in we'd just have even more arguments.
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please not Foster, it angers me how he is so hyped up!!!

and why did my post full of beautiful suggestions sink the the last post of the page, this also angers me!!
Being a really good keeper does generate some hype, it seems. Foster hasn't scored enough county runs really and is another who has probably had enough exposure to international cricket to be a known quantity and largely unlikely to be improved by a Lions tour. I'm not sure who I'd prefer though.

Sorry Maty, I just don't know enough about the players to comment, beyond that you're almost certainly on drugs.
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Does any keeper other than Prior contribute enough with the bat?
Pipe, Snell, maybe Davies are all heavy scorers this season, along with Prior.
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This is all hypothetical but I'd picked my 14 based on the idea that England would have a small squad for the short two test series in India. In retrospect, Prior, rather than Shah, may well be selected for such a squad as he provides cover for two positions.

Vaughan*
Cook
Strauss
Pietersen
Bell
Collingwood
Prior
Ambrose+
Flintoff
Jones
Sidebottom
Panesar
Anderson

A revised 15 would probably look like:

Key*
Denly
Bopara
Patel
Shah
Morgan
Hildreth
Foster+
Wright
Rashid
Bresnan
Plunkett
Broad
Tremlett
Onions

It doesn't matter anyway. England don't seem to pay proper attention to 'A' tours... and we'll probably have a squad of 15 for the tests in India.

The cat won't eat it's lettuce.
I would have Plunkett in the first squad. He is a much better ODI player than Jones.
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I would have Plunkett in the first squad. He is a much better ODI player than Jones.
"short two test series in India"
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Pipe, Snell, maybe Davies are all heavy scorers this season, along with Prior.
Davies is having another poor season. Thought he'd pick up now he's back in the second division, but nope.

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a few outside bets:

Rob White - the guy can seriously hit a ball
Dawid Malan
Gale
Trego - certainly has talent....
Robbie Joseph - we are told he is very quick??
Wagg - the kid seriously is a big match player!

anyway they are all slightly eccentric picks but who knows...

Surely Horton has to be in the squad though??
Rob White - He's always had the potential for explosive innings, but usually there's been lots of dross in between, hence the poor averages. The amount of dross has reduced this season, but he's older than I thought, and probably not worth the place over other players.

Dawid Malan - Looks a bit of a knee-jerk right now, but could easily be worth a pick by the end of the season.

Gale - Has been impressive, and could be an outside pick. Still only limited evidence though - was barely in the team last year.

Trego - Injury means that his England credentials haven't been completely blown out of the water, yet. In the four games so far, Somerset have somehow come up against teams who want to get out to the dobblies he bowls Never know, could be something there

Joseph - No.

Wagg - Sorry Maty, hasn't impressed me from what I've seen of him. Bresnan's better.

Horton - Yes. Short of openers, and (by following his performances on cricinfo) he looks class
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Davies is having another poor season. Thought he'd pick up now he's back in the second division, but nope.



Rob White - He's always had the potential for explosive innings, but usually there's been lots of dross in between, hence the poor averages. The amount of dross has reduced this season, but he's older than I thought, and probably not worth the place over other players.

Dawid Malan - Looks a bit of a knee-jerk right now, but could easily be worth a pick by the end of the season.

Gale - Has been impressive, and could be an outside pick. Still only limited evidence though - was barely in the team last year.

Trego - Injury means that his England credentials haven't been completely blown out of the water, yet. In the four games so far, Somerset have somehow come up against teams who want to get out to the dobblies he bowls Never know, could be something there

Joseph - No.

Wagg - Sorry Maty, hasn't impressed me from what I've seen of him. Bresnan's better.

Horton - Yes. Short of openers, and (by following his performances on cricinfo) he looks class
Horton looks a good opener no doubt about that and Trego an all rounder maybe. Good with the bat and when conditions suit, handy with the ball. White, depends on age, Malwan looks good but not really heard of him. Joseph and Wagg, not heard them mentioned in selection terms before.

Okay that's the Davies issue cleared up, and we all know what Prior can do. What of the other 2? Even if you take out the not outs, 440 in 8 Innings is good for a wicketkeeper and time is on his side. And Pipe has dug Derbyshire out of holes a number of times with the bat.
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please not Foster, it angers me how he is so hyped up!!!

and why did my post full of beautiful suggestions sink the the last post of the page, this also angers me!!
Wasn't ignoring them, they all looked decent outside shouts. Does anyone know anything about Malan?
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Wasn't ignoring them, they all looked decent outside shouts. Does anyone know anything about Malan?
Outside his cricinfo profile, not much. Has been a class act in the Middx seconds for a while, and with Shah available should be in the first team, but will probably be pushed out by Smith and Joyce. He's a little-bit-more-than-part-time leggie too

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Horton looks a good opener no doubt about that and Trego an all rounder maybe. Good with the bat and when conditions suit, handy with the ball. White, depends on age, Malwan looks good but not really heard of him. Joseph and Wagg, not heard them mentioned in selection terms before.

Okay that's the Davies issue cleared up, and we all know what Prior can do. What of the other 2? Even if you take out the not outs, 440 in 8 Innings is good for a wicketkeeper and time is on his side. And Pipe has dug Derbyshire out of holes a number of times with the bat.
They're possibles, but it's a crowded market. Pipe's the wrong side of 30, and his stats don't scream quality. Snell has impressed in a poor team, and is still 25, so could come into the reckoning. Both suffer from being in Div 2 though, and Snell could do with a better List A average than 4
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Old 7th July 2008, 08:15   #119
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People only mention Davies because he was hyped up two years ago when he got a lot of runs in virtually his debut season in Division two. At the timeruns were all that mattered so the media - many of whom hadnt seen him - didnt pick up on the fact that his keeping was poor. It remains weak and the runs have dried up. He's a figment of the media's uinformed imagination in terms of international cricket at present.
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Wasn't ignoring them, they all looked decent outside shouts. Does anyone know anything about Malan?
i did wonder where he appeared from and was suprised he was English i've only seen him once in a twenty20 game but he looked a very cool customer.

Just on Joseph did i read somewhere that he was one of the quickest in county cricket?? think it was in an article anout lack of real pace in world cricket and in England?
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