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Old 11th August 2008, 14:54   #21
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Old 11th August 2008, 14:58   #22
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But they do have to pay the ECB for the right to stage the game?
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Old 11th August 2008, 14:58   #23
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I'm not sure where all the money goes to be honest. I mean literally, I don't know how much of the ticket prices is recouped by the counties or indeed redistributed etc.
I'm browsing through that info atm, damn the Ashes was a huge financial winner for CA, they made A$40m more than the previous year which was a 50% increase

Both seem to give alot of money back to the states/counties
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Old 11th August 2008, 16:13   #24
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Old 14th August 2008, 16:19   #25
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Fat salaries and free lunches. Gatt has landed on his feet. Although he can't see them.
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Well the all the papers seem to think Vaughan will get a contract tomorrow.

'The power and influence of Kevin Pietersen will be revealed today when Michael Vaughan, his predecessor and a great friend, is awarded a full central contract. Vaughan will be one of 12 full contracts announced by the ECB, which will also, in a departure from the past, award so-called “increment contracts” for seven players who will be paid primarily by their counties, but who will also receive a top-up fee from the ECB, enabling the England set-up to retain an element of control.'

The seven incremental contracts represent a departure in policy, but they also reflect the frustration felt in the past that financial considerations have resulted in too small a squad coming under the control of the England head coach. These contracts, which are likely to go to emerging and fringe players such as Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara, will be seen as a stepping stone to a full contract, the value of which could vary between £200,000 and £400,000. An increment contract will award a number of points for one-day internationals and Test matches and when a certain level has been reached, these players will qualify for full-contract status

I wonder who the seven players are?

Bopara, Shah, Swann, Patel, Prior, Wright and Bresnan or Tremlett would cover all the other players that are in the ODI side. I think Tremlett might get one because he has played in both forms of the game.
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Old 9th September 2008, 01:57   #27
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Well the all the papers seem to think Vaughan will get a contract tomorrow.

'The power and influence of Kevin Pietersen will be revealed today when Michael Vaughan, his predecessor and a great friend, is awarded a full central contract. Vaughan will be one of 12 full contracts announced by the ECB, which will also, in a departure from the past, award so-called “increment contracts” for seven players who will be paid primarily by their counties, but who will also receive a top-up fee from the ECB, enabling the England set-up to retain an element of control.'

The seven incremental contracts represent a departure in policy, but they also reflect the frustration felt in the past that financial considerations have resulted in too small a squad coming under the control of the England head coach. These contracts, which are likely to go to emerging and fringe players such as Owais Shah and Ravi Bopara, will be seen as a stepping stone to a full contract, the value of which could vary between £200,000 and £400,000. An increment contract will award a number of points for one-day internationals and Test matches and when a certain level has been reached, these players will qualify for full-contract status

I wonder who the seven players are?

Bopara, Shah, Swann, Patel, Prior, Wright and Bresnan or Tremlett would cover all the other players that are in the ODI side. I think Tremlett might get one because he has played in both forms of the game.
Presumably Broad will be getting Hoggy's contract. I'd love to see Strauss rewarded for his performances over the last 3 years and have his taken away, but it isn't going to happen and he'll continue to be rewarded for failure.

Prior, Bopara, Shah and Patel are probably certs to get development contracts. The remaining three will be interesting. I wouldn't rule out Pattinson, but it will be interesting to see if they go test or one-day route. As they are trying to keep the test and one-day squads the same, I expect they'll follow the one-day squad route, particularly as the main incentive is to stop players going to the IPL/ICL. That probably means Swann, Wright and then the big question mark.



ps FBU, I'm always impressed by how you are always on top of squad announcements and things like this. Is it just from an assiduous reading of multiple sources or is there one handy place that gems like that are hidden away?
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Presumably Broad will be getting Hoggy's contract. I'd love to see Strauss rewarded for his performances over the last 3 years and have his taken away, but it isn't going to happen and he'll continue to be rewarded for failure.

Prior, Bopara, Shah and Patel are probably certs to get development contracts. The remaining three will be interesting. I wouldn't rule out Pattinson, but it will be interesting to see if they go test or one-day route. As they are trying to keep the test and one-day squads the same, I expect they'll follow the one-day squad route, particularly as the main incentive is to stop players going to the IPL/ICL. That probably means Swann, Wright and then the big question mark.



ps FBU, I'm always impressed by how you are always on top of squad announcements and things like this. Is it just from an assiduous reading of multiple sources or is there one handy place that gems like that are hidden away?
Well if the increment contracts go the the remaining players who are in the one day side that would be everybody covered. I think Pattinson will go on the Lions tour but I can't see him getting one after only playing one game. I don't think it is to stop the players going to the ICL/IPL.

Firstly anyone going to the ICL can't register to play county cricket for a year and Moores wants the players going to the IPL to get valuable experience before the 20/20 World Cup but for a set period say two weeks rather than the whole of the IPL.

I am hoping Vaughan will get some runs and take Strauss' place in India. I wonder if Hoggard might get an increment contract?

re your ps I like to read the papers online when they first come out in the early hours.
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I don't think Hoggy will get an increment contract.

I'm going to be mightly p*ssed off if Michael Vaughan gets a central contract because it means (especially if Strauss has got one) that one of the main reasons for our mediocre test form (jobs for the boys, well as long as they're batsmen) will not be addressed. How can you give central contracts to two batsmen who have pretty much failed over the last year after being given chance after chance and drop a bowler after one poor test never to see him again? Disgusting bias towards the batsmen is that.
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I would have thought Prior would get a full contract as Test and ODI keeper?
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I would have thought Prior would get a full contract as Test and ODI keeper?
Well IF and I emphasise the if, he has genuinely shown that his wicket keeping has improved, and that means in test matches then I'm sure they may reconsider but like all other incumbents it will take a long while before I'm convinced, but disasters aside he should be given a few tests.
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Vaughan looks a cert to get a central contract, given that KP has said he wants him to get one.
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Vaughan looks a cert to get a central contract, given that KP has said he wants him to get one.
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Oh. That's not what you meant be "out" is it...
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I agree this is going to be wholly unfair. I can just about cope with Vaughan's contract, but I don't believe in any way, shape or form Strauss deserves one - like has been eloquently said before, batsmans club, and just how hurt will Hoggy be? Hoggy should definitely have a contract, especially as Harmison is back into the frame.
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I agree this is going to be wholly unfair. I can just about cope with Vaughan's contract, but I don't believe in any way, shape or form Strauss deserves one...
What did you expect? "Kev'" is part of the clique, this is one of the many reasons why I objected to him becoming captain in the first place.

It's clear from what he's been talking about in the media of late he wants the gang of "2005" of back together at all costs.

Although I'm not sure what Hoggy has done to fall so far out of favour?
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I agree this is going to be wholly unfair. I can just about cope with Vaughan's contract...
Can you? Really. He has been in worse form than Strauss over the last twelve months. We need a clean break with him, a clean break with the past and a clean break from that BLOODY 2005 ASHES!

When we look to innovate, when we look to keep things fresh and dynamic we look good. Why oh why do we want to repeat the mistakes of the past few years?
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I'd be surprised if Vaughan didn't get a contract. Others have had one when they haven't been playing.
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I'd be surprised if Vaughan didn't get a contract. Others have had one when they haven't been playing.
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I don't think Hoggy will get an increment contract.

I'm going to be mightly p*ssed off if Michael Vaughan gets a central contract because it means (especially if Strauss has got one) that one of the main reasons for our mediocre test form (jobs for the boys, well as long as they're batsmen) will not be addressed. How can you give central contracts to two batsmen who have pretty much failed over the last year after being given chance after chance and drop a bowler after one poor test never to see him again? Disgusting bias towards the batsmen is that.
I think the problem is that the ECB seem to think they have to give out 12 central contracts, when in reality there aren't that many players that deserve them. These other new contracts seem like a good idea to me and would suit Vaughan and Strauss much better
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