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Old 23rd December 2015, 12:24   #341
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Australia ....having won in the Windies and have beaten NZ at home.
Wow ! Some achievement that..
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Old 23rd December 2015, 12:27   #342
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test runs in 2015 calendar year

Most runs
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50
AN Cook (Eng) 13 24 1 1357 263 59.00 3085 43.98 3 8
JE Root (Eng) 13 24 3 1288 182* 61.33 2009 64.11 3 9
DA Warner (Aus) 12 22 0 1277 253 58.04 1575 81.07 4 7
SPD Smith (Aus) 12 22 2 1270 215 63.50 2127 59.70 5 4
Williamson (NZ) 8 16 3 1172 242*90.151955 59.94 5
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Wow ! Some achievement that..
Didn't say it was a great achievement, merely pointing out that despite it not being much of an achievement England failed to match it.
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test runs in 2015 calendar year

Most runs
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50
AN Cook (Eng) 13 24 1 1357 263 59.00 3085 43.98 3 8
JE Root (Eng) 13 24 3 1288 182* 61.33 2009 64.11 3 9
DA Warner (Aus) 12 22 0 1277 253 58.04 1575 81.07 4 7
SPD Smith (Aus) 12 22 2 1270 215 63.50 2127 59.70 5 4
Williamson (NZ) 8 16 3 1172 242*90.151955 59.94 5
It's not based on the calendar year. They run some weird year from some date in September to a slightly different date in September.
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Wow ! Some achievement that..
Both better results than England managed.
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Old 23rd December 2015, 12:39   #346
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Australia have had a better year in test cricket if you simply go on W L and live up to a point outside an Ashes prism. They are W7 D2 L2 having won in the Windies and have beaten NZ at home. England did neither of those 2 things and are W5 D2 L6 this year in test match results alone.
Isn't that an argument for team of the year rather than player? During Aussies biggest series smith was terrible as soon as the ball went off the straight.

I don't often agree with jock but picking him over cook or Williamson is bizarre
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Isn't that an argument for team of the year rather than player? During Aussies biggest series smith was terrible as soon as the ball went off the straight.

I don't often agree with jock but picking him over cook or Williamson is bizarre
Oh I'm not Smith's biggest fan by a long shot but when he gets runs he really cashes in. I would rate both Root and Williamson for batsmanship over Smith but he's more consistent in getting big tons than them. Cook also struggles a bit more than he should when the ball goes off the straight but in that respect is above Smith by a decent margin.
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Isn't that an argument for team of the year rather than player? During Aussies biggest series smith was terrible as soon as the ball went off the straight.

I don't often agree with jock but picking him over cook or Williamson is bizarre
I'd pick Warner in front of Smith.
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Isn't that an argument for team of the year rather than player? During Aussies biggest series smith was terrible as soon as the ball went off the straight.

I don't often agree with jock but picking him over cook or Williamson is bizarre
That's a bit like Pops' argument that England had totally found Smith out because he only scored loads of runs on the flatter decks and otherwise didn't (because of course batsmen mostly score their runs when it's jagging about and get out cheaply in shirtfronts). Not that I disagree with the point that Kane Williamson and Joe Root are arguably better batsmen but then it depends on the sampling window the awards use and as gbg pointed out, it's a bit of an eccentric one. Williamson didn't have anything like as good a tour of England as Smith, although hard to compare two tests with five and a lot of his runs have come since September.
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That's a bit like Pops' argument that England had totally found Smith out because he only scored loads of runs on the flatter decks and otherwise didn't (because of course batsmen mostly score their runs when it's jagging about and get out cheaply in shirtfronts). Not that I disagree with the point that Kane Williamson and Joe Root are arguably better batsmen but then it depends on the sampling window the awards use and as gbg pointed out, it's a bit of an eccentric one. Williamson didn't have anything like as good a tour of England as Smith, although hard to compare two tests with five and a lot of his runs have come since September.
I also should have pointed out that my mentions of how England did this year was in relation to how it might have caught the public consciousness if you are going to mention a possible nomination for Sports Personality (I will confess to having studiously avoided that show for many years). Overall an individual achievement can only be in the context of wider team success. If you were going to use the Ashes alone as a yardstick then there was a case for Root or Broad. The problem as well as I'm sure all are aware is that the Ashes were tucked away on Sky and therefore not that highly watched by the wider public, particularly in comparison to 2005 when Flintoff won the award.
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See that Susie Bates won ICC Women's ODI and T20 Player of the Year.

Women’s Team of the Year (in batting order):

Suzie Bates (New Zealand)
Rachel Priest (New Zealand) (wicketkeeper)
Smriti Mandhana (India)
Stafanie Taylor (West Indies) (captain)
Meg Lanning (Australia)
Ellyse Perry (Australia)
Heather Knight (England)
Deandra Dottin (West Indies)
Sune Luus (South Africa)
Anya Shrubsole (England)
Leigh Kasperek (New Zealand)
Kim Garth (12th) (Ireland

I suppose the dates for the men will be the same 14 Sep 2015 to 20 Sep 2016.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...type=bat ting
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...type=bow ling
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See that Susie Bates won ICC Women's ODI and T20 Player of the Year.

Women’s Team of the Year (in batting order):

Suzie Bates (New Zealand)
Rachel Priest (New Zealand) (wicketkeeper)
Smriti Mandhana (India)
Stafanie Taylor (West Indies) (captain)
Meg Lanning (Australia)
Ellyse Perry (Australia)
Heather Knight (England)
Deandra Dottin (West Indies)
Sune Luus (South Africa)
Anya Shrubsole (England)
Leigh Kasperek (New Zealand)
Kim Garth (12th) (Ireland

I suppose the dates for the men will be the same 14 Sep 2015 to 20 Sep 2016.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...type=bat ting
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...type=bow ling
Men's test team?

1. Warner
2. Williamson
3. Khawaja
4. Smith
5. Voges
6. R. Taylor
7. Bairstow
8. Ashwin
9. Jadeja
10. Starc
11. Anderson

ODI team?

1. Guptill
2. Roy
3. de Villiers
4. du Plessis
5. Sharma
6. Buttler
7. Stokes
8. Starc
9. Narine
10. Rabada (but it should be Zadran)
11. Henry
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Old 22nd December 2016, 12:39   #353
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Didn't see this on here yet:

ICC Cricketer of the Year (Sir Garfield Sobers Trophy) – Ravichandran Ashwin (India)

ICC Test Cricketer of the Year – Ravichandran Ashwin (India)

ICC ODI Cricketer of the Year – Quinton de Kock (South Africa)

ICC Women’s ODI Cricketer of the Year – Suzie Bates (New Zealand)

ICC Women’s T20I Cricketer of the Year – Suzie Bates (New Zealand)

ICC T20I Performance of the Year – Carlos Brathwaite (West Indies ) (34 not out, 10 balls, 1x4, 4x6, ICC WT20 India 2016 final v England, Kolkata)

ICC Emerging Cricketer of the Year – Mustafizur Rahman (Bangladesh)

ICC Associate/Affiliate Cricketer of the Year – Mohammad Shahzad (Afghanistan)

ICC Spirit of Cricket Award – Misbah-ul-Haq (Pakistan)

ICC Umpire of the Year (David Shepherd Trophy) – Marais Erasmus

ICC Men’s Test Team of the Year 2016:

David Warner (Aus)
Alastair Cook (Eng) (captain)
Kane Williamson (NZ)
Joe Root (Eng)
Adam Voges (Aus)
Jonny Bairstow (Eng) (wicketkeeper)
Ben Stokes (Eng)
R. Ashwin (Ind)
Rangana Herath (SL)
Mitchell Starc (Aus)
Dale Steyn (SA)
(12th man) Steve Smith (Aus)

ICC Men’s ODI Team of the Year 2016:

David Warner (Aus), Quinton de Kock (SA), Rohit Sharma (Ind), Virat Kohli (Ind) (captain), AB de Villiers (SA), Jos Buttler (Eng), Mitchell Marsh (Aus), Ravindra Jadeja (Ind), Mitchell Starc (Aus), Kagiso Rabada (SA), Sunil Narine (WI),Imran Tahir (SA)

ICC Women’s Team of the Year 2016:

Suzie Bates (New Zealand), Rachel Priest (New Zealand) (wicketkeeper), Smriti Mandhana (India), Stafanie Taylor (West Indies) (captain), Meg Lanning (Australia), Ellyse Perry (Australia), Heather Knight (England), Deandra Dottin (West Indies), Sune Luus (South Africa), Anya Shrubsole (England), Leigh Kasperek (New Zealand), Kim Garth (Ireland)


Thoughts:

- Ashwin probably deserved to be ICC Cricketer of the Year and Test Match player too for frankly crazy statistics, even given the home advantage, they're impressive

- Misbah also a great choice for the spirit of cricket award

- Voges in the team and Smith as 12th man seems ridiculous

- Dale Steyn? Really? Barely played any Test cricket, did well against NZ but Rabada probably more deserving
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Didn't see this on here yet:

ICC Cricketer of the Year (Sir Garfield Sobers Trophy) – Ravichandran Ashwin (India)

ICC Test Cricketer of the Year – Ravichandran Ashwin (India)

ICC ODI Cricketer of the Year – Quinton de Kock (South Africa)

ICC Women’s ODI Cricketer of the Year – Suzie Bates (New Zealand)

ICC Women’s T20I Cricketer of the Year – Suzie Bates (New Zealand)

ICC T20I Performance of the Year – Carlos Brathwaite (West Indies ) (34 not out, 10 balls, 1x4, 4x6, ICC WT20 India 2016 final v England, Kolkata)

ICC Emerging Cricketer of the Year – Mustafizur Rahman (Bangladesh)

ICC Associate/Affiliate Cricketer of the Year – Mohammad Shahzad (Afghanistan)

ICC Spirit of Cricket Award – Misbah-ul-Haq (Pakistan)

ICC Umpire of the Year (David Shepherd Trophy) – Marais Erasmus

ICC Men’s Test Team of the Year 2016:

David Warner (Aus)
Alastair Cook (Eng) (captain)
Kane Williamson (NZ)
Joe Root (Eng)
Adam Voges (Aus)
Jonny Bairstow (Eng) (wicketkeeper)
Ben Stokes (Eng)
R. Ashwin (Ind)
Rangana Herath (SL)
Mitchell Starc (Aus)
Dale Steyn (SA)
(12th man) Steve Smith (Aus)

ICC Men’s ODI Team of the Year 2016:

David Warner (Aus), Quinton de Kock (SA), Rohit Sharma (Ind), Virat Kohli (Ind) (captain), AB de Villiers (SA), Jos Buttler (Eng), Mitchell Marsh (Aus), Ravindra Jadeja (Ind), Mitchell Starc (Aus), Kagiso Rabada (SA), Sunil Narine (WI),Imran Tahir (SA)

ICC Women’s Team of the Year 2016:

Suzie Bates (New Zealand), Rachel Priest (New Zealand) (wicketkeeper), Smriti Mandhana (India), Stafanie Taylor (West Indies) (captain), Meg Lanning (Australia), Ellyse Perry (Australia), Heather Knight (England), Deandra Dottin (West Indies), Sune Luus (South Africa), Anya Shrubsole (England), Leigh Kasperek (New Zealand), Kim Garth (Ireland)


Thoughts:

- Ashwin probably deserved to be ICC Cricketer of the Year and Test Match player too for frankly crazy statistics, even given the home advantage, they're impressive

- Misbah also a great choice for the spirit of cricket award

- Voges in the team and Smith as 12th man seems ridiculous

- Dale Steyn? Really? Barely played any Test cricket, did well against NZ but Rabada probably more deserving
Steyn 4 Tests
Cook, captain of the year? Does this mean he will stay on after hearing that.
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- Voges in the team and Smith as 12th man seems ridiculous
Steve Smith 1004 runs at an average of 66.93; Voges 1087 at an average of 90.58.

Guptill average of 67.11 at a strikerate of 116.82, both better than Kohli, doesn't make the ODI side?

Maybe his captaincy won him extra points?
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Alex Hales was 7 runs better than David Warner too, with a marginally higher strike rate. Who knows what they make the decisions based on?
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Alex Hales was 7 runs better than David Warner too, with a marginally higher strike rate. Who knows what they make the decisions based on?
It's all decided in September, which probably doesn't help.
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David Warner (Aus)
Alastair Cook (Eng) (captain)
Kane Williamson (NZ)
Joe Root (Eng)
Adam Voges (Aus)
Jonny Bairstow (Eng) (wicketkeeper)
Ben Stokes (Eng)
R. Ashwin (Ind)
Rangana Herath (SL)
Mitchell Starc (Aus)
Dale Steyn (SA)
(12th man) Steve Smith (Aus)
There must be some very poor Captains around, the other underlined are almost as ridiculous each other.
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There must be some very poor Captains around, the other underlined are almost as ridiculous each other.
True but bear in mind the sampling window used for the awards on the Voges / Smith apparent absurdity.
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