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Old 2nd October 2009, 15:24   #121
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sorry but i agree with the Johnson decision.
His stats for the timeperiod in question have been impressive:

80 wickets in just 17 Tests @ around 27, 632 runs @ 30.09.

Just because he had a poor series in England, doesn't invalidate what went before I think.

Still, Strauss got lots of runs and galvanised England from a dire winter so could have got it, albeit only in the second half of this timeperiod.
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Old 2nd October 2009, 19:12   #122
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Utter joke decision tbh. I think I'm going to start a 'Mitchell Johnson is not Test class' thread, what an utterly horrid bowler
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Old 3rd October 2009, 11:01   #123
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His stats for the timeperiod in question have been impressive:

80 wickets in just 17 Tests @ around 27, 632 runs @ 30.09.

Just because he had a poor series in England, doesn't invalidate what went before I think.

Still, Strauss got lots of runs and galvanised England from a dire winter so could have got it, albeit only in the second half of this timeperiod.
Maybe Strauss lost points by captaining a series loss against the West Indians.
Johnson had a poor Ashes series, despite what stats say and a largely very good one against the Saffers home and away. He still was tonked around a bit by them but redeemed himself with the bat at times or some freakish spells with the ball.
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Old 10th October 2009, 02:35   #124
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A SA perspective on the awards.

Highlights include:

Quite how Andrew Strauss’ exploits overshadowed Smith’s series-defining centuries at Lord’s, Edgbaston, Perth and Melbourne will never be known.

he England captain is a fine player, but Smith’s performances were so convincing that they changed his standing in Australia, which is no mean feat in itself.
Duminy himself had a case for being named Emerging Player of the Year, as no other player this year walked into a side and belonged quite as he did.

His maiden century at the MCG was so complete an innings that icons such as Ian Chappell, Mark Taylor and Tony Greig were lost for words.

He carried that form into the home series and the ODIs, so the question is why did he not even get on the shortlist? Peter Siddle won the award, and as heartily as he ran in, the Victorian came nowhere near the heights that Duminy reached.


Quite what leadership Dhoni displayed over the last 12 months remains a John Grisham special, but there he is — recognised as the best leader in the game this year.

AB de Villiers had a similarly stellar year, showing incredible temperament in England before showing his class in Australia.


The writer also believes that Pakistan and SL were shortchanged and India treated too kindly.
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Old 10th October 2009, 02:43   #125
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A SA perspective on the awards.

Highlights include:

Quite how Andrew Straussí exploits overshadowed Smithís series-defining centuries at Lordís, Edgbaston, Perth and Melbourne will never be known.

he England captain is a fine player, but Smithís performances were so convincing that they changed his standing in Australia, which is no mean feat in itself.
Duminy himself had a case for being named Emerging Player of the Year, as no other player this year walked into a side and belonged quite as he did.

His maiden century at the MCG was so complete an innings that icons such as Ian Chappell, Mark Taylor and Tony Greig were lost for words.

He carried that form into the home series and the ODIs, so the question is why did he not even get on the shortlist? Peter Siddle won the award, and as heartily as he ran in, the Victorian came nowhere near the heights that Duminy reached.


Quite what leadership Dhoni displayed over the last 12 months remains a John Grisham special, but there he is ó recognised as the best leader in the game this year.

AB de Villiers had a similarly stellar year, showing incredible temperament in England before showing his class in Australia.


The writer also believes that Pakistan and SL were shortchanged and India treated too kindly.
What are your views on Smith now?
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Old 18th August 2010, 14:49   #126
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Long lists for this year (August 09-August 10).

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Cricketer of the Year

Hashim Amla (SA)
Doug Bollinger (Aus)
Michael Clarke (Aus)
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (Ind)
Ryan Harris (Aus)
Mitchell Johnson (Aus)
Jacques Kallis (SA)
Morne Morkel (SA)
Ricky Ponting (Aus)
Kumar Sangakkara (SL)
Virender Sehwag (Ind)
Dale Steyn (SA)
Sachin Tendulkar (Ind)
Daniel Vettori (NZ)
AB de Villiers (SA)
Shane Watson (Aus)

Test Player of the Year

Hashim Amla (SA)
James Anderson (Eng)
Mohammad Asif (Pak)
Doug Bollinger (Aus)
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (Ind)
Tamim Iqbal (BD)
Mahela Jayawardena (SL)
Jacques Kallis (SA)
Simon Katich (Aus)
Kumar Sangakkara (SL)
Thilan Samaraweera (SL)
Virender Sehwag (Ind)
Dale Steyn (SA)
Graeme Swann (Eng)
Sachin Tendulkar (Ind)
Shane Watson (Aus)

ODI Player of the Year

Hashim Amla (SA)
Doug Bollinger (Aus)
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (Ind)
Tillekeratne Dilshan (SL)
Ryan Harris (Aus)
Michael Hussey (Aus)
Jacques Kallis (SA)
Ricky Ponting (Aus)
Virender Sehwag (Ind)
Sachin Tendulkar (Ind)
AB de Villiers (SA)
Daniel Vettori (NZ)
Shane Watson (Aus)
Cameron White (Aus)

Emerging Player of the Year

Mohammad Amir (Pak)
Umar Akmal (Pak)
Tim Bresnan (Eng)
Steven Finn (Eng)
Shafiul Islam (BD)
Ravindra Jadeja (Ind)
Virat Kohli (Ind)
Angelo Mathews (SL)
Eoin Morgan (Eng)
Pragyan Ojha (Ind)
Tim Paine (Aus)
Wayne Parnell (SA)
Kemar Roach (WI)
Steven Smith (Aus)
Paul Stirling (Ire)
David Warner (Aus)
Cricketer of the year is dominated by Australians and South Africans with no Englishmen in there. Swann and Anderson are highest ranked test players are nominated in that category. No ODI player of the year but three in the emerging players category.
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Old 18th August 2010, 15:51   #127
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No cricketer or ODI of the year for the 20/20 World Champions England ?

SHOCKING !
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Old 18th August 2010, 16:00   #128
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How the frigging **** does Swann not get on the list for cricketer of the year?
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Off-field reasons? Of which of course he is currently not guilty.
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Old 18th August 2010, 16:06   #130
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Off-field reasons? Of which of course he is currently not guilty.
I can't see that having any bearing whatsoever. I'd like to know what the criteria were though
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How the frigging **** does Swann not get on the list for cricketer of the year?
Cat related misdemeanours probably went against him.
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Old 18th August 2010, 17:22   #132
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What are 6 Australians doing in the cricketer of year list? Ponting, Harris, Bollinger??? They shouldn't be anywhere near that list. No Morgan in the ODI nominations doesn't make sense either.
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Old 18th August 2010, 21:05   #133
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No cricketer or ODI of the year for the 20/20 World Champions England ?

SHOCKING !
I don't see what relevance the 20:20 has on ODI cricketer of the year.

Why there isn't a 20:20 cricketer of the year award, I'm not sure.

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How the frigging **** does Swann not get on the list for cricketer of the year?
In the 12 months in question he averaged 41 against Australia, 31 against South Africa (respectable rather than sensational) and 32 against Bangladesh.

That doesn't shout out player of the year.

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What are 6 Australians doing in the cricketer of year list? Ponting, Harris, Bollinger??? They shouldn't be anywhere near that list. No Morgan in the ODI nominations doesn't make sense either.
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The nominations, which recognise cricketing achievement for the period between 24 August 2009 and 10 August 2010, were made by a five-man selection panel chaired by Clive Lloyd, chairman of the ICC cricket committee. The panel also includes former international players Angus Fraser, Matthew Hayden, Ravi Shastri and Duncan Fletcher.

Just looking at the Test nominees and how they did -

Test Player of the Year

Amla - 9 Tests 923 runs at 65.92
Anderson - 8 Tests 41 wickets at 22.53
Asif - 10 Tests 51 wickets at 23.39
Bollinger - 9 Tests 42 wickets at 22.71
Dhoni - 9 Tests 594 runs at 66.00
Iqbal - 7 Tests 837 runs at 59.78
Jayawardena - 7 Tests 849 runs at 70.75
Kallis - 9 Tests 849 runs at 60.64
Katich - 9 Tests 991 runs at 61.93
Sangakkara - 7 Tests 867 runs at 78.81
Samaraweera - 7 Tests 625 runs at 78.12
Sehwag - 10 Tests 1282 runs at 85.46
Dale Steyn - 8 Tests 41 wickets at 20.78
Graeme Swann - 10 Tests 49 wickets at 27.55
Sachin Tendulkar - 10 Tests 1064 runs at 81.84
Shane Watson - 9 Tests 750 runs at 46.87 ~ 24 wickets at 20.87

No Bell 8 Tests 719 runs at 65.36
(Trott 47.68, Cook 42.88, Prior 35.30, Strauss 36.84, Collingwood 50.25, Pietersen 42.00 ~ Broad 8 Tests 28 wickets at 32.03, Finn 6 Tests 27 wickets at 21.85
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The nominations, which recognise cricketing achievement for the period between 24 August 2009 and 10 August 2010, were made by a five-man selection panel chaired by Clive Lloyd, chairman of the ICC cricket committee. The panel also includes former international players Angus Fraser, Matthew Hayden, Ravi Shastri and Duncan Fletcher.

Just looking at the Test nominees and how they did -

Test Player of the Year

Amla - 9 Tests 923 runs at 65.92
Anderson - 8 Tests 41 wickets at 22.53
Asif - 10 Tests 51 wickets at 23.39
Bollinger - 9 Tests 42 wickets at 22.71
Dhoni - 9 Tests 594 runs at 66.00
Iqbal - 7 Tests 837 runs at 59.78
Jayawardena - 7 Tests 849 runs at 70.75
Kallis - 9 Tests 849 runs at 60.64
Katich - 9 Tests 991 runs at 61.93
Sangakkara - 7 Tests 867 runs at 78.81
Samaraweera - 7 Tests 625 runs at 78.12
Sehwag - 10 Tests 1282 runs at 85.46
Dale Steyn - 8 Tests 41 wickets at 20.78
Graeme Swann - 10 Tests 49 wickets at 27.55
Sachin Tendulkar - 10 Tests 1064 runs at 81.84
Shane Watson - 9 Tests 750 runs at 46.87 ~ 24 wickets at 20.87

No Bell 8 Tests 719 runs at 65.36
(Trott 47.68, Cook 42.88, Prior 35.30, Strauss 36.84, Collingwood 50.25, Pietersen 42.00 ~ Broad 8 Tests 28 wickets at 32.03, Finn 6 Tests 27 wickets at 21.85
Are those dates definitely right?

I thought the last lot of awards didn't include the Ashes, even though they were announced after the Ashes, or something similarly ridiculous.
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Are those dates definitely right?

I thought the last lot of awards didn't include the Ashes, even though they were announced after the Ashes, or something similarly ridiculous.
Well those dates seem correct as they are also on the ICC site.
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Ravindra Jadeja as the emerging player of the year?

That has to be the worst nomination this year.
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How the frigging **** does Swann not get on the list for cricketer of the year?
Swann has now been added to the list.
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Swann has now been added to the list.
So he has..... I presume GBG wasn't the one who informed the ICC of their error.
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So he has..... I presume GBG wasn't the one who informed the ICC of their error.
It was probably the 300 congratulatory emails that gave them a hint
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