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Old 6th October 2010, 16:35   #161
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Amir has been cut from the awards.
I'd be surprised if that had happened without agreement from all parties. It would have attracted the wrong kind of attention.
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Old 6th October 2010, 16:40   #162
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We got two in the Test Team of the Year

Virenda Sehwag
Simon Katich
Hashim Amla
Sachin Tendulkar
Jacques Kallis
Kumar Sangakkara
MS Dhoni
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
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England would thrash that team in a test series in England.
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Old 6th October 2010, 16:45   #163
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Surprise, surprise, batsmen win all the awards. I honestly felt that Swann, for a mixture of character, charisma, quality and guile, was the cricketer of the year. I think it should be about more than just churning out figures - it's about being somebody who made a great contribution to cricket in all areas. Swann did more for off-spin and bowling in general in the year than others did for their respective art forms - in my admittedly very humble opinion. However, his original non-inclusion told everyone straight away that he had no chance. He probably wasn't Indian enough.
I was misled by 5Live who announced that Swann had been passed over for Virender Sehwag. Bit confused to switch on the computer and find that the cricketer of the year is Tendulkar - the award all the fuss was about after Swann's original omission. He was robbed. I suspect a sense that time was running out for Tendulkar, who has never won the award before and can't go on forever. Sehwag had a better test match year than Sachin so took the test match award but Swann was the outstanding cricketer in all formats and should have won.

And what's that people's vote about? I don't recall being asked for mine.
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Old 6th October 2010, 16:47   #164
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I was misled by 5Live who announced that Swann had been passed over for Virender Sehwag. Bit confused to switch on the computer and find that the cricketer of the year is Tendulkar - the award all the fuss was about after Swann's original omission. He was robbed. I suspect a sense that time was running out for Tendulkar, who has never won the award before and can't go on forever. Sehwag had a better test match year than Sachin so took the test match award but Swann was the outstanding cricketer in all formats and should have won.

And what's that people's vote about? I don't recall being asked for mine.

Tendulkar was basically a "lifetime achievement award" - a bit like Giggs getting BBC SPOTY.


They should rename these the "IPL stars" cricket awards.
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Old 6th October 2010, 16:48   #165
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England would thrash that team in a test series in England.
It wouldn't be given test status.
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Old 6th October 2010, 16:53   #166
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It wouldn't be given test status.
Tickets would be test prices though
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Old 6th October 2010, 16:58   #167
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Tendulkar was basically a "lifetime achievement award" - a bit like Giggs getting BBC SPOTY.


They should rename these the "IPL stars" cricket awards.
Yes, that's what I feel. There's nothing to stop them including a special lifetime achievement award when the occasion suits. They do it at the Oscars.

The same old players (emphasis on "old") get the awards year after year. I think the adjudication panel needs a shake up. I presume it isn't the same panel as the one that made the original cock up with the long lists.

If there is likely to be a batsman bias why don't they have awards for test batsman, test bowler etc. ?
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Old 6th October 2010, 18:00   #168
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Yes, that's what I feel. There's nothing to stop them including a special lifetime achievement award when the occasion suits. They do it at the Oscars.

The same old players (emphasis on "old") get the awards year after year. I think the adjudication panel needs a shake up. I presume it isn't the same panel as the one that made the original cock up with the long lists.

If there is likely to be a batsman bias why don't they have awards for test batsman, test bowler etc. ?
Prime example - Daniel Vettori in the ODI team of the year over Swann - come on FFS.
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Old 6th October 2010, 18:11   #169
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During the period under consideration for the award - August 24, 2009 to August 10, 2010 :

6 hundreds in 10 tests for Sachin against SA, SL and Bangla with 2 hundreds against each country, average of 80 something although he played SL too many times. 1000 runs in a year.

Swanny the GOD meanwhile 6 five fors with a bowling average of 27 in 10 tests with games against Pakistan, SA and Bangladesh with 3 five fors against Bangladesh playing them 4 times in the period(!), 2 five fors against SA and 1 against Pakistan.

One day wise, Swann did amazing apart from the Champs trophy and the SA tour where he wasnt that good. Most his games were played in England though. Sachin played most in India as well.

Swann's no doubt been very good in one day cricket and when comparing him with Sachin directly Swann's probably had more impact on the results although Sachin scored a 200 in an ODI something no one will repeat for ages. Test wise with Swann facing Bangladesh so much and only averaging 27 and then playing an awful pakistan batting line up in those first two tests, Sachin's performances have been much better in tests plus he's Indian of course and that's why Sachin's year > Swann's.
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Old 6th October 2010, 18:13   #170
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Prime example - Daniel Vettori in the ODI team of the year over Swann - come on FFS.
Vettori was still a fair call. Took a wicket in all bar one game (where his figures were 0/25) and never went at more than 4.5 runs an over. A startlingly consistent one-day bowler. Shakib and Swann would have been equally fair calls though. Shakib for doing a job on his own at times, Swann for consistent displays of attacking off-spin.
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Old 6th October 2010, 19:19   #171
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Funnily enough I was going to do a post defending SRT's claims on the crown, however after all my hard work it is ******* DDB who does the bloody business!*










*Except for that last line, but I'll let you off.
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Funnily enough I was going to do a post defending SRT's claims on the crown, however after all my hard work it is ******* DDB who does the bloody business!*

*Except for that last line, but I'll let you off.
Actually after my earlier post my attention was drawn to Tendulkar's one day performances and I have to agree that he had a pretty impressive year so perhaps the judges were right.
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Good to see Jimmy and Swanny in the test team. Shame about the batsmen!
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Tendulkar was basically a "lifetime achievement award" - a bit like Giggs getting BBC SPOTY.


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Yes, that's what I feel. There's nothing to stop them including a special lifetime achievement award when the occasion suits. They do it at the Oscars.

The same old players (emphasis on "old") get the awards year after year. I think the adjudication panel needs a shake up. I presume it isn't the same panel as the one that made the original cock up with the long lists.

If there is likely to be a batsman bias why don't they have awards for test batsman, test bowler etc. ?
Brits moaning.

So what's new?
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Brits moaning being ignorant.

So what's new?
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Anyhow,

Ponting being selected as the Captain of the one day squad is the question everyone should be debating about.....rather than misplaced jingoistic rants.
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.....rather than misplaced jingoistic rants.
What would be a well placed jingoistic rant?

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So what's new?
Oh, found it...
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What would be a well placed jingoistic rant?



Oh, found it...
He's an Aussie really, anyway!
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Ponting being selected as the Captain of the one day squad is the question everyone should be debating about.....rather than misplaced jingoistic rants.
Perhaps a plot of the Aussies ODI team ranking over the year may prove your point.

I'm sure Sehwag deserved his award - not many batsmen can get a decent score on the bowler friendly pitches of Sri Lanka.
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Perhaps a plot of the Aussies ODI team ranking over the year may prove your point.

I'm sure Sehwag deserved his award - not many batsmen can get a decent score on the bowler friendly pitches of Sri Lanka.
Ah yes all players score 2 hundreds and a 99 in 3 tests and then also in a series before in India score 290 off like 250 balls?

Anyhoo, who should have got that award? Oh yes Swanny the leader of wickets against Bangladesh and Pakistan

And even WeStMiDz was a better WUM than this.

Saying this though what I actually mean is Amla was ****ing good this year as well but cos Sehwag is a true IPL star he won.
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