Cricket 24/7  

Welcome to the Cricket 24/7.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. There are also more forums available to members, such as the Lounge - where members chat about just about anything under the sun except cricket!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   Cricket 24/7 > Cricket Discussion Forums > Ex-International Player Forum
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Casino Articles Terms of Use Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11th March 2011, 17:39   #181
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 41,791
I am very surprised that KP didn't want to stick it out with the chance of being a hero in this tournament. He had been doing OK and could have got better. I certainly wish he had been there today opening the batting. Nobody is denying that having a hernia is painful and that he will be in discomfort; the general view is that he could have hung around a bit longer to see how he went. Still not sure why Strauss gave him 8 overs of bowling or why KP agreed to bowl them if he was in pain at that stage. It was only shortly after the end of the match that his departure was announced as I recall. I don't know if one or two journalists have taken this critical view and it's been taken up by others or if it's something they all believe to be the case.
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th March 2011, 18:03   #182
Fatslogger
Self Confessed Mentalist
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Hitchin
Team(s): England and Liverpool
Age: 41
Posts: 43,274
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer View Post
I am very surprised that KP didn't want to stick it out with the chance of being a hero in this tournament. He had been doing OK and could have got better. I certainly wish he had been there today opening the batting. Nobody is denying that having a hernia is painful and that he will be in discomfort; the general view is that he could have hung around a bit longer to see how he went. Still not sure why Strauss gave him 8 overs of bowling or why KP agreed to bowl them if he was in pain at that stage. It was only shortly after the end of the match that his departure was announced as I recall. I don't know if one or two journalists have taken this critical view and it's been taken up by others or if it's something they all believe to be the case.
I think the fact that everyone is surprised that Pietersen isn't bravely sticking it out suggests there may well be a very good reason why he isn't: like him being in too much pain to do so. Unlike arthritic pain (and indeed run of the mill bruises, knocks etc.), hernia pain isn't terribly responsive to NSAIDS, so Atherton's comparison is a little false.

I'm not really all that interested in the consensus of opinion within the correspondants, because none of them really have a clue about this medically.
__________________
Work is the curse of the drinking classes - Wilde
Fatslogger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th March 2011, 18:09   #183
Kim
Posting God
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 18,088
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer View Post
Mike Atherton in today's Times. Copied and pasted for those without an online subscription.



One can question the accuracy, agenda, style etc of Brenkley's article but the pundits' views on Pietersen's withdrawal are beginning to stack up and they aren't contradicting the croissant lover's. (No e at the end, Kim).


(P.S. It's a rum do when a word capable of a totally innocent use is asterisked.)
Thers a difference between questionning KPs pain threshold - as Atherton has done (though how anyone who isnt KP knows how much pain KP is in, I dont know )- and the inferences that the croissant guzzler draws.
Kim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th March 2011, 18:32   #184
sharky
Posting God
 
sharky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Sussex
Team(s): Sussex, England
Posts: 10,258
I think I'll reserve judgement until the IPL and whether he does indeed turn up for that. It really won't look very good, but I see no evidence to suggest that KP is anything other than injured. Athers is generally very pro-KP so it is unusual for that kind of article about him, though as FS says, he aint a doctor. If it is a question of ego, then surely anyone with a supposed ego as big as his would demand to play on the biggest stage if at all possible rather than just give up because he hurts a little.
__________________
She was like a candle in the wind...Unreliable
sharky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th March 2011, 14:53   #185
Minor Maggie
Buttleresque
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Leeds
Team(s): Lancashire, England
Posts: 26,668
Clearly Pietersen wanted to go home to spend time in seedy nightclubs with fellow A-listers.
Minor Maggie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th March 2011, 16:43   #186
diteras.aka.
International Cricketer
 
diteras.aka.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: North Yorkshire
Team(s): durrr..........
Posts: 2,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minor Maggie View Post
Clearly Pietersen wanted to go home to spend time in seedy nightclubs with fellow A-listers.
Either that or we have a case of a fairly astute rodent abandoning a sinking vessel. Its the smart move.
One thing you have to admire is that KP the product is the prime motivator. We are told that no one prepares harder or more thoroughly and I don't doubt it - Cricket is a game where a selfish man can to a point be a successful one and his selfishness can be a team asset - the paradox of it is beautiful. I live in Yorkshire I should know.
I have never questioned this mans genuine desire to succeed or his flawed genius - but I cant help thinking that we, the cricket public media and establishment, in making him captain, then effectively sacking him, found a way to undermine even that most robust ego.

It's a gift
__________________
In an England cricket XI, the flesh may be of the south, but the bone is of the north, and the backbone is Yorkshire."

(Sir Leonard Hutton
)

People from Yorkshire are very proud of their underachievement. You see these old fellas in the pub going: 'I've had a great life, me. Gone nowhere. Done **** all. Aye.
Paul Tonkinson
diteras.aka. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th March 2011, 16:53   #187
diteras.aka.
International Cricketer
 
diteras.aka.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: North Yorkshire
Team(s): durrr..........
Posts: 2,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatslogger View Post
I think the fact that everyone is surprised that Pietersen isn't bravely sticking it out suggests there may well be a very good reason why he isn't: like him being in too much pain to do so. Unlike arthritic pain (and indeed run of the mill bruises, knocks etc.), hernia pain isn't terribly responsive to NSAIDS, so Atherton's comparison is a little false.

I'm not really all that interested in the consensus of opinion within the correspondants, because none of them really have a clue about this medically.
Quite agree - Atherton used to manage his pain with diclofenac - which is commonly known as voltarol - an over the counter available medication.
No hernia pain could be managed with any over the counter medication if the person involved was expected to exert themselves. Try it.
Fish and chip papers tomorrow.
__________________
In an England cricket XI, the flesh may be of the south, but the bone is of the north, and the backbone is Yorkshire."

(Sir Leonard Hutton
)

People from Yorkshire are very proud of their underachievement. You see these old fellas in the pub going: 'I've had a great life, me. Gone nowhere. Done **** all. Aye.
Paul Tonkinson
diteras.aka. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th March 2011, 17:29   #188
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 41,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by diteras View Post
Quite agree - Atherton used to manage his pain with diclofenac - which is commonly known as voltarol - an over the counter available medication.
No hernia pain could be managed with any over the counter medication if the person involved was expected to exert themselves. Try it.
Fish and chip papers tomorrow.
I was surprised that Atherton mentioned Voltarol - something I have seen advertised and on supermarket shelves. But he also mentions having to have cortisone injections and it is well documented that frequently he had difficulty getting out of bed, never mind playing cricket.
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2011, 00:07   #189
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Posting God
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 27,075
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minor Maggie View Post
Clearly Pietersen wanted to go home to spend time in seedy nightclubs with fellow A-listers.
I read the likes of Spin rather than Heat, so I'm not all together up to speed with Capey's whereabouts, but I was under the understanding that he didn't do that type of thing now he was a married man?
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2011, 04:48   #190
mustardcharlie
Established International
 
mustardcharlie's Avatar
You know there ain't no devil: It's just God when he's drun
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bedfordshire
Team(s): Yorkshire, England, LUFC, Otley RFC.
Age: 65
Posts: 4,639
I wonder what Brian Close, Fred Trueman and Malcolm Marshall would have had to say about it. Actually I dont. Would run along thelines of "Big Girl's Blouse", "Wussipants", "100% tosser", that sort of thing. Not the sort of thing you could say on the radio. What a ****** though. Should stick the poofter in the front row of his local rugby 3rd XV. Broad can be excused but KP just wussed out.
__________________
Answers 3d
Answers (requiring thought) 6d
Answers (correct) 1s
mustardcharlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2011, 13:59   #191
Cesar
Posting God
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,839
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustardcharlie View Post
I wonder what Brian Close, Fred Trueman and Malcolm Marshall would have had to say about it. Actually I dont. Would run along thelines of "Big Girl's Blouse", "Wussipants", "100% tosser", that sort of thing. Not the sort of thing you could say on the radio. What a ****** though. Should stick the poofter in the front row of his local rugby 3rd XV. Broad can be excused but KP just wussed out.
It's difficult to disagree with any of that Charles.
Cesar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2011, 14:20   #192
slop
Posting God
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Cambridge
Team(s): South Africa
Age: 41
Posts: 18,805
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cesar View Post
It's difficult to disagree with any of that Charles.


I can't disagree with the story of Narnia either.

Last edited by slop : 14th March 2011 at 18:19. Reason: Fixed for Cesar
slop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2011, 18:17   #193
Cesar
Posting God
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,839
Quote:
Originally Posted by slop View Post


I can't disagree with Narnia either.
I haven't seen any of her posts yet.
Cesar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2011, 18:19   #194
slop
Posting God
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Cambridge
Team(s): South Africa
Age: 41
Posts: 18,805
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cesar View Post
I haven't seen any of her posts yet.
Which would make them about as based in realilty as mc's.

Last edited by slop : 14th March 2011 at 18:36.
slop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 01:55   #195
stevieh
World Class
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Team(s): England, Kent, Canada
Posts: 6,667
It was only a few days ago that the consensus on the board seemed to be that it would be best all round if England crashed and burned in the round robin stage, the better to get the lads back to prepare for the upcoming summer. Based on that, KP should be feted for his decision to withdraw.
stevieh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 11:40   #196
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 41,791
He must have had second sight then, as he withdrew straight after the victory v. South Africa with England "only" needing to beat Bangladesh for a Q final place.
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 14:44   #197
Cesar
Posting God
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,839
He's obviously injured. He's also a complete plant pot to think that going clubbing within 48 hours of returning to his wife and family is a wise move given his high profile.
Cesar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2011, 16:52   #198
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 41,791
If he had just a few more IQ points he might have been a great cricketer.
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011, 22:08   #199
ddb
Established International
 
ddb's Avatar
http://www.cricket-match-special.com/
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,581
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ry/509034.html

"If I was fully fit I'd be on a plane tomorrow back to India for the IPL which I'm really going miss, it's a great tournament and would have been a really good lead up into the Test series having played international standard cricket,"
__________________
"Well, like a few, creaking Terminators, we're back..."
Dravid on his and Sachin's return to Australia to lose 4-0.
ddb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011, 22:30   #200
sanskritsimon
Legendary
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Team(s): Arkholme Bees, Hackney Grasshoppers, Holy Cross Academicals
Posts: 9,907
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddb View Post
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ry/509034.html

"If I was fully fit I'd be on a plane tomorrow back to India for the IPL which I'm really going miss, it's a great tournament and would have been a really good lead up into the Test series having played international standard cricket,"
KP, sort it out. Thou talkest drivel. The IPL is Indian domestic cricket. It is not "international standard cricket". It is a format as far as possible removed from test cricket. And it is being played on the other side of the world from the test series of which you speak. A couple of CC games, albeit in the 2nd division, will be better preparation for the Cardiff test than the IPL would be. However, they won't make you feel rich or famous.
sanskritsimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:53.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Cricket247.org