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Old 13th December 2010, 10:13   #101
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They may have made their names that way, but you remember the innings against decent opposition. I remember Lara's centuries vs Aus rather than his 400. As someone who didn't grow up with the Ashes, I remember Hayden standing alone in India, or putting Donald and pollock to the sword, not filling his boots against a below par England bowling attack or breaking the record vs Zimbabwe.
Indeed this is so, and we likewise remember Pietersen's knocks against the stronger Australian teams. However, I think Midnight isn't looking at the context when she dismisses his 227 as being against a weak attack. The point is that KP hadn't made a century against any attack in 27 innings, most unusual given his previous record. And he didn't get to 104 and get out, he recorded his highest test score and emphatically declared himself "back". So maybe that's what it will be remembered for when he has done as well against better teams, and maybe we will be able to look back and say it was a turning point for Pietersen. Or maybe the arguments will go on...
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Old 14th December 2010, 21:24   #102
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He hasn't played the switch hit in yonks, probably since before his form slump and injury. I think it's just one of those things, it was his day on a flat pitch against a dire attack. I don't think he changed his game one bit. This score was always going to come eventually if given the time to do some work away from the limelight. Another brilliant piece of management from Flower and co.
The switch-hit was a shot he employed to move fields. If captains are now plugging that gap, he's not going to play that shot but will attack the area left vacant instead.

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I cannot disagree with any of that FS but what MF, Cesar and myself are trying to say (pardon me if I have got the names wrong or misinterpreted their feelings) is that I have never before seen KP disassemble a bowling attack in that fashion. I have seen great batmen do it. He is not (yet?) of that calibre. That innings though leads me to believe he could rival the likes of Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting over the next few 3 years. I have doubted this since he came into the team in 2005 but now I believe. (Exits to strains of "Amazing Grace" ).
The moment that stood out for me in Capey's career was the way he disassembled Murali, a bowler with 800 wickets at 22 something. That was special.
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Old 14th December 2010, 21:45   #103
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KP rival Lara?

For real?
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KP rival Lara?

For real?
Yeah because he's now scored one hundred in 28 innings. At least he's in form now though.
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Old 14th December 2010, 22:35   #105
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The switch-hit was a shot he employed to move fields. If captains are now plugging that gap, he's not going to play that shot but will attack the area left vacant instead.



The moment that stood out for me in Capey's career was the way he disassembled Murali, a bowler with 800 wickets at 22 something. That was special.
Think I've said before that that series was his zenith as a batsman. The game we won by 6 wickets, in which Pietersen was the only man to get past about 40 on either side in either innings and scored 140 or so was one in which he stood head, shoulders and skunk haircut (although he didn't have it any more but stick with my metaphor) above everyone else.

Oh well, I was close with some of my recollections, although Vandort and Dilshan got some runs second innings. Nobody else got past 30 in the first inning though. Murali got 10-115 that game. Pietersen had also got 158 at Lord's, or course.

Course he's now clearly far more mature, because he just scored some runs against Australia's also ran attack on a flat deck.
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Old 18th December 2010, 09:39   #106
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The "new" KP follows his highest score with his worst return from any match in which hes batted twice.
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The "new" KP follows his highest score with his worst return from any match in which hes batted twice.
Nothing like trying to redress the balance.
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Nothing like trying to redress the balance.
Capey not succeeding is more a case for

See how when he failed England failed. When he succeeded England succeeded.
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Old 18th December 2010, 10:17   #109
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Except for the first test match. I think it's more to do with our openers. When one of them sticks the whole middle order seems like a different team. When they don't...
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See how when he failed England failed. When he succeeded England succeeded.
517 -1?

Zebby has a point. Strauss is quietly bieng pretty mediocre here.
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Certainly batted like Lara today, shame it was the 41 year old Lara.
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Old 18th December 2010, 10:32   #112
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Zebby has a point. Strauss is quietly bieng pretty mediocre here.
We drew at Brisbane. Had it been Capey batting instead of Cooky, who knows we may have had a chance of winning because Capey scores that much quicker.
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We drew at Brisbane. Had it been Capey batting instead of Cooky, who knows we may have had a chance of winning because Capey scores that much quicker.
Had David Beckham been a cricketer and batted at 3 he would've surpassed Don Bradman by now.
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Old 5th March 2011, 12:20   #116
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Ah a Kevin Pietersen thread. He's gonna miss the IPL as he needs hernia surgery.
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Suppose getting under half than he did last time did not help, he was going to be captain though so Deccan wont be happy.
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I imagine he will be livid to miss the IPL. Despite his denials I wonder if this will make him think of packing up ODIs. On the other hand he may need to perform in them now to get a good IPL contract next year.
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Ah a Kevin Pietersen thread. He's gonna miss the IPL as he needs hernia surgery.
Good news for England I would have thought. Hopefully he'll be fully fit for the start of the home international season.
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Certainly what I thought when I first heard the news.
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