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Old 8th March 2011, 13:31   #161
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Old 8th March 2011, 14:07   #162
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"England coach Andy Flower admits surprise over Kevin Pietersen's withdrawal" says the headline. How exactly did he do this, via sign language? Because none of the quotes in that article mention Flower's 'surprise,' or even come close to any expression of it. No wonder there's such a wrong impression of Kevin Pietersen the person, when skewed articles like this are so often written about him.

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It wasnt a break so Morgan tweeted that it wasnt as bad as first feared but it was still serious - and the ECB said he would need weeks of rehab before it could be assessed again. Think the view was that, if all went well, he could possibly be fit for the final. Daily Mail then quoted unnamed friends of Moragn saying he could have been in the squad.
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Old 8th March 2011, 18:57   #163
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I don't think Bopara will get the gig. It's between Bell and Prior.
Trott should also be considered. I'm dead against him being shovelled up the order in Tests. Cook is doing a fine job there. Unlike Cook though, Trott can biff a bit, is an experienced opener, will have Strauss at the the other end and that leaves Bell, Morgan, Bopara, Collingwood, Prior etc to choose from lower down. England have often been criticised for not picking sloshers and biffers for the first 10 overs but that is not the only way to play the game. We have two games left in group matches and I would go with Strauss, Trott, Bell, Bopara, Collingwood, Morgan, Prior, Bresnan, Swann, Tremlett/Broad/Shahzad, Anderson. It's probably between Look Right and Collers for a spot and LW has opened before. That is the way they will go, I fear.
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Old 9th March 2011, 08:31   #164
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Like the Telegraph but worse

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Old 10th March 2011, 14:51   #165
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I think as usual you are all over analysing the situation and missing the point .Pietersen has gone home

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Old 10th March 2011, 19:48   #166
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Pretty abysmal journalism, yes, in all sorts of ways. Quite apart from the abysmal analysis and ugly insinuations, there's absolutely no flow or thread to the piece.
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Old 10th March 2011, 20:39   #167
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Pretty abysmal journalism, yes, in all sorts of ways. Quite apart from the abysmal analysis and ugly insinuations, there's absolutely no flow or thread to the piece.
Not easy to write when you are constantly trying to beat the world croissante-eating record. Not a favourite of mine. Nor are croissantes.
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Old 10th March 2011, 21:01   #168
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Pretty abysmal journalism, yes, in all sorts of ways. Quite apart from the abysmal analysis and ugly insinuations, there's absolutely no flow or thread to the piece.
I've always been a huge Pietersen fan but I have to say my faith in him becoming an England great is at an all time low despite an Ashes double ton this winter.

I don't think that article is that far off the mark to be honest, although it is clearly written with a very transparent agenda.

This article on Cricinfo is probably a little better balanced, although many of the conclusions are the same.
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Old 10th March 2011, 21:26   #169
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Mike Atherton in today's Times. Copied and pasted for those without an online subscription.

One can question the accuracy, agenda, style etc of Brenkley's article but the pundits' views on Pietersen's withdrawal are beginning to stack up and they aren't contradicting the croissant lover's. (No e at the end, Kim).


(P.S. It's a rum do when a word capable of a totally innocent use is asterisked.)

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Mike Atherton in today's Times. Copied and pasted for those without an online subscription.



One can question the accuracy, agenda, style etc of Brenkley's article but the pundits' views on Pietersen's withdrawal are beginning to stack up and they aren't contradicting the croissant lover's. (No e at the end, Kim).


(P.S. It's a rum do when a word capable of a totally innocent use is asterisked.)
Which word is it?

Also thanks for the article. Interesting stuff and most seem to think Flower was annoyed you are right. Given that it's expected he is to retire from ODIs after this World Cup maybe he thought that we had no chance of winning it so why bother?
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Which word is it?

Also thanks for the article. Interesting stuff and most seem to think Flower was annoyed you are right. Given that it's expected he is to retire from ODIs after this World Cup maybe he thought that we had no chance of winning it so why bother?
I had to misspell it. Pirck.
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One can question the accuracy, agenda, style etc of Brenkley's article but the pundits' views on Pietersen's withdrawal are beginning to stack up and they aren't contradicting the croissant lover's.
Interesting take on events from Atherton.
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Interesting article from Atherton.

The angle no-one seems to have considered is how Capey played through his achilles injury and how this hampered him. He really should have had an operation on that sooner. I wonder how much that has influenced him now?
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More worthless rubbish from some journalist written just to fill his pages. Though obvious in Atherton's case there would be no conceivable way of saying anything resembling "petulant child" in less than 1,500 words.
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I wonder what the chances are of him rcovering so well he will want to play in the IPL .He could always justify it by saying he is using it to regain fitness for the upcoming test series .

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Interesting article from Atherton.

The angle no-one seems to have considered is how Capey played through his achilles injury and how this hampered him. He really should have had an operation on that sooner. I wonder how much that has influenced him now?
Yes, despite all that Pietersen still made an okay contribution in the time he was clearly struggling with that achilles, and he probably had to return too soon after that injury. Most of the Atherton article was very well balanced but again I think people are drawing far too many inferences.
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Yes, despite all that Pietersen still made an okay contribution in the time he was clearly struggling with that achilles, and he probably had to return too soon after that injury. Most of the Atherton article was very well balanced but again I think people are drawing far too many inferences.
Spot on. And people tend to interpret the "news" based on their feelings about a player - it may have happened on the South Africa threads occasionally, can't remember...
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Yes, despite all that Pietersen still made an okay contribution in the time he was clearly struggling with that achilles, and he probably had to return too soon after that injury. Most of the Atherton article was very well balanced but again I think people are drawing far too many inferences.
I feel you arent drawing enough inferences
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I don't really claim to be an expert on hernias and there's no denying that Atherton played through a lot of pain but different pains are different and if Pietersen says he's got too much pain to play then I can't really see why anyone would believe that he's lying. The guy was player of the tournament in the World T20 and will have been extremely keen to leave a similar mark on this event. Even his detractors will probably accept that his ego would have insisted on as much; in fact they really ought to be the first to say it. I like Atherton's journalism but I don't like his insinuations any better than Brenkley's just because he can actually write prose.
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