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Old 9th August 2010, 15:55   #41
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Good to see him back scoring runs against a decent bowling attack. He's having a cracking season overall.
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Old 9th August 2010, 15:57   #42
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He's settling in very nicely at 3, in the Hussain/Butcher mould, which is a compliment on an England scale. Which makes it inevitable, I suppose, that some people now want him to open the batting.
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Old 9th August 2010, 21:16   #43
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Should pass the 1k mark by the end of the series. His average of 51.27 is the highest on either side.
Who's he scored his runs against so far? I'm too lazy to look.

From memory he's faced the Aussies, Saffers, Bangles and Pakistani attacks which is a pretty decent selection from a dozen(?) or so tests. That's pace and spin, home and away. Only one really duff attack in there, but even so Shakib in Bangladesh offers a different type of examination.

The sample size is still far too small to draw firm conclusions from, but the fact that it is so varied maybe gives us cause for some encouragement. Test cricket though is as much about being able to adapt, so it'll be interesting to see if he can make the adjustments once opponents around the world get an extended look at him.

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He's settling in very nicely at 3, in the Hussain/Butcher mould, which is a compliment on an England scale. Which makes it inevitable, I suppose, that some people now want him to open the batting.
Yes, because the complete lack of credible alternatives to bat at 3, will inevitably see fans want to see him moved out of position to open, thereby causing at least as many problems as it solves.
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Old 9th August 2010, 23:19   #44
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Should pass the 1k mark by the end of the series. His average of 51.27 is the highest on either side.
I don't think that Trott will be quite good enough to retain that kind of average throughout his career but I do think that he is the best number 3 England have had since Butcher and he has the potential to be a lot better than him. I like his calm demeanour at the crease and his sheer hunger for runs. He looks to me like the kind of player who could compile some really big hundreds once he gets in. I'm looking forward to seeing how he shapes up this winter.
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Old 10th August 2010, 11:16   #45
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Either I've just got used to it, or he has calmed down his time-wasting a lot, which is a big plus for me. I genuinely hated watching him earlier on in the summer, but he has started to win me over. He seems very limited against spin bowling, but as he is playing as a solid number 3 bat, isn't too big an issue at the moment.
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Old 11th August 2010, 23:29   #46
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All this talk of moving Trott up to open is balderdash, I reckon. We have the most natural No 3 bat I can remember. Leave him there. Gower, I always felt would have done more at 4 or 5. Gooch got moved up to open early in his career. Many others have been tried in the position. Most have failed. After Strauss at 1, though the next position I would pencil in would be Trott at 3. Cook, Carberry, Lyth, KP, Collingwood, Morgan, Bell, Bopara et al. can fight over the rest of the batting slots, but those two should stay where they are.
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Old 27th August 2010, 20:54   #47
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Only Sachin Tendulkar has more Test runs this year.
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Old 28th August 2010, 03:06   #48
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Yet Trott still missed out on the short list of 20 or so players for the ICC cricketer of the year awards that sky showed the other week.
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he is indeed, the best english batsman, since Robin Smith
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Old 28th August 2010, 09:29   #50
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he is indeed, the best english batsman, since Robin Smith
Lol, nice work.
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Yet Trott still missed out on the short list of 20 or so players for the ICC cricketer of the year awards that sky showed the other week.
Those names were selected on the basis of performance from Aug 09 to Aug 10. Trott got a century at the Oval but wasn't so great in South Africa.
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Old 28th August 2010, 15:24   #52
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Brilliant innings today but at the risk of being picky, he didn't do himself any favours by referring his dismissal. He quite clearly nicked it through to the keeper and should have just walked, let alone ask for a referral. I suppose he was hoping that overstepping would be picked up but i did feel this was a very cynical use of the referral system and not what it is designed for - an unintended and undesirable outcome of a new rule.

Kim, any thoughts?
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Old 28th August 2010, 15:32   #53
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He didn't ask for the referral according to TMS. They said the umpires referred it.
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Old 28th August 2010, 16:05   #54
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Really?

I'm not sure what difference it makes, he hit the cover of it ( to quote one of the commentators ) and really should have walked. As the batsman he would have known he was out.
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Yeah it was the umpires. Just checked on cricinfo, if they can be relied upon.
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Old 28th August 2010, 17:35   #56
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Shame Trott didn't get another double ton today. Not that it matters.
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Trott's average is now higher than KP's. Food for thought.
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Old 28th August 2010, 20:56   #58
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Brilliant innings today but at the risk of being picky, he didn't do himself any favours by referring his dismissal. He quite clearly nicked it through to the keeper and should have just walked, let alone ask for a referral. I suppose he was hoping that overstepping would be picked up but i did feel this was a very cynical use of the referral system and not what it is designed for - an unintended and undesirable outcome of a new rule.

Kim, any thoughts?
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"In the annals of Test history there have been larger innings. There have been hundreds more dogged, courageous and stylish. Some of them might have been played at Lord's.

But not many. Not anywhere.


Jonathan Trott's unbeaten 149 for England on the second day of the fourth Test against Pakistan here yesterday was one of the great innings."

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I think what he said.
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Yes:

"In the annals of Test history there have been larger innings. There have been hundreds more dogged, courageous and stylish. Some of them might have been played at Lord's.

But not many. Not anywhere.


Jonathan Trott's unbeaten 149 for England on the second day of the fourth Test against Pakistan here yesterday was one of the great innings."

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So do I. And if he doesn't get the Man of the Match award it will be a gross injustice.
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Yes:

"In the annals of Test history there have been larger innings. There have been hundreds more dogged, courageous and stylish. Some of them might have been played at Lord's.

But not many. Not anywhere.


Jonathan Trott's unbeaten 149 for England on the second day of the fourth Test against Pakistan here yesterday was one of the great innings."

Stephen "croissant" Brenckley.

I think what he said.
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