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Old 27th December 2010, 19:43   #121
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Old 28th December 2010, 15:48   #122
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Mike Selvey's excellent description of Trott went something like:

"He is the batting equivalent of the fellow at a party who no one recognises, who stays in the kitchen on his own not talking but is last to leave, having had a great time"
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Old 29th December 2010, 02:56   #123
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Nice to see Trott with such a big smile on his face. What an impact he has made in his short test career to date - 1600 runs in 17 tests at 64.00 with 5 centuries (226, 184, 168*, 135* & 119). Top man.
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Old 29th December 2010, 03:01   #124
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Mike Selvey's excellent description of Trott went something like:

"He is the batting equivalent of the fellow at a party who no one recognises, who stays in the kitchen on his own not talking but is last to leave, having had a great time"
In my experience nobody is ever on their own in the kitchen at a party, it's where everyone tends to gather. But I know what he means.
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Old 29th December 2010, 09:13   #125
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Funny you should say last to leave the party because the BBC have just shown him walking round the ground with his wife and pushing the pushchair presumably really loving the moment.
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Old 29th December 2010, 11:47   #126
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Old 1st January 2011, 20:45   #127
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Old 1st January 2011, 23:55   #128
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Can't recall it being mentioned recently but there was a period when much doubt was expressed as to whether Trott was a sensible number 3, having failed there in South Africa. On balance, he's probably dealt with the concerns.
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Can't recall it being mentioned recently but there was a period when much doubt was expressed as to whether Trott was a sensible number 3, having failed there in South Africa. On balance, he's probably dealt with the concerns.
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Old 2nd January 2011, 13:56   #130
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Can't recall it being mentioned recently but there was a period when much doubt was expressed as to whether Trott was a sensible number 3, having failed there in South Africa. On balance, he's probably dealt with the concerns.
As recently as the June 2010 issue Wisden Cricketer had a panel of of media experts picking the ashes team. Trott got 2 votes out of 14. Bopara, Key, Morgan and James Taylor all got more favourable mentions.

Take a bow Mike Selvey ("I have real doubts about Trott"), Paul Newman, Kevin Mitchell, Derek Pringle, Simon Wilde (wanted Morgan and, if not him Bopara ahead of Trott who "I fear will fade from view") in particular. I wont be getting my lottery numbers in future from Berry, Brenckley or Bumble either.

Even the journos who backed him (Marks and CMJ) had him as a marginal choice.
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As recently as the June 2010 issue Wisden Cricketer had a panel of of media experts picking the ashes team. Trott got 2 votes out of 14. Bopara, Key, Morgan and James Taylor all got more favourable mentions.

Take a bow Mike Selvey ("I have real doubts about Trott"), Paul Newman, Kevin Mitchell, Derek Pringle, Simon Wilde (wanted Morgan and, if not him Bopara ahead of Trott who "I fear will fade from view") in particular. I wont be getting my lottery numbers in future from Berry, Brenckley or Bumble either.

Even the journos who backed him (Marks and CMJ) had him as a marginal choice.
Has Derek Pringle ever got anything right?
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Old 2nd January 2011, 14:04   #132
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Has Derek Pringle ever got anything right?
Not much. Maybe a bit better than Wilde who often simply doesnt know what hes talking about. Steve James, among the nationals, is IMO the best now. Very perceptive, funny and knowledgeable.
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Not much. Maybe a bit better than Wilde who often simply doesnt know what hes talking about. Steve James, among the nationals, is IMO the best now. Very perceptive, funny and knowledgeable.
Has nothing to do with when he wrote that bad article about Trott, you hunted him down and found out he reads your posts on bearsfans?
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As recently as the June 2010 issue Wisden Cricketer had a panel of of media experts picking the ashes team. Trott got 2 votes out of 14. Bopara, Key, Morgan and James Taylor all got more favourable mentions.

Take a bow Mike Selvey ("I have real doubts about Trott"), Paul Newman, Kevin Mitchell, Derek Pringle, Simon Wilde (wanted Morgan and, if not him Bopara ahead of Trott who "I fear will fade from view") in particular. I wont be getting my lottery numbers in future from Berry, Brenckley or Bumble either.

Even the journos who backed him (Marks and CMJ) had him as a marginal choice.
I bet the list you keep of people who have slagged off Paul Harris is even longer.

Trott's not going to keep this form up. He's having a spell of good form, much like Cook is having a spell of good form (albeit not quite as good as Cook's form). Most of the journos now singing Trott's praises will have been slagging off Alistair Cook before this series. Except probably Pringle as he's pretty perceptive.
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I bet the list you keep of people who have slagged off Paul Harris is even longer.

Trott's not going to keep this form up. He's having a spell of good form, much like Cook is having a spell of good form (albeit not quite as good as Cook's form). Most of the journos now singing Trott's praises will have been slagging off Alistair Cook before this series. Except probably Pringle as he's pretty perceptive a fellow Essex man.
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In a few years time I would have thought, we were last there in winter 2008.
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Steve James, among the nationals, is IMO the best now. Very perceptive, funny and knowledgeable.
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Can't recall it being mentioned recently but there was a period when much doubt was expressed as to whether Trott was a sensible number 3, having failed there in South Africa. On balance, he's probably dealt with the concerns.
Odd isn't it because I remember that one well. On one occasion he looked a completely different player yet the rest of the time he has seemed completely assured in his role. I actually think he is the most likely looking no 3 I have seen in an England shirt. Even if Strauss or Cook were to be injured/dropped/rested, I would not like to see him moved in the order. Absolutely sound IMO and rivalling Cook and Jimmy for MoS. I've probably banjaxed him now for 2011 but it had to be said.
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I think criticism of the criticism of Trott is perhaps a bit over the top. After all, Trott had played only one test before he went on the South African tour. In any player's first few tests there is bound to be a bit of knee jerking unless performances are uniformly good or bad. As it now appears, it was wrong for the doubters to doubt him, but he has now established himself as England's best no. 3 and everyone is agreed that he is a reassuring presence.
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I think criticism of the criticism of Trott is perhaps a bit over the top. After all, Trott had played only one test before he went on the South African tour. In any player's first few tests there is bound to be a bit of knee jerking unless performances are uniformly good or bad. As it now appears, it was wrong for the doubters to doubt him, but he has now established himself as England's best no. 3 and everyone is agreed that he is a reassuring presence.
I suggest you reread the nature and tone of the critisism. And reexamine its basis carefully.

Why is there bound to be knee jerking from any reasonably mature media? And even if there is - which I simply dont accept - why is "hes mentally fragile" the default knee jerk?
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