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Old 29th July 2015, 23:05   #2041
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Have two players ever reached 300 in the same game?
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Old 29th July 2015, 23:14   #2042
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There are only 11 players to have done the 2000 runs; 300 wicket double. Both Broad and Johnson could join they list this test.
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Old 29th July 2015, 23:17   #2043
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Would have been ideal if Broad had waited until Trent Bridge but I don't think he'll worry about that too much.
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Old 29th July 2015, 23:37   #2044
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There are only 11 players to have done the 2000 runs; 300 wicket double. Both Broad and Johnson could join they list this test.
Mitch can reach both in this game.
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Old 30th July 2015, 07:44   #2045
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Is that 400 for Steyn then?
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Old 30th July 2015, 10:24   #2046
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Old 30th July 2015, 14:37   #2047
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Congratulations to Dale Steyn on being the fastest in terms of balls bowled to 400 wickets. He has also equalled Hadlee by doing it in 80 tests. murali managed it in 72 tests.

If Broad gets 300 it will be the first time two players have done it in the same game.
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Old 30th July 2015, 16:47   #2048
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Mitch can reach both in this game.
It's an interesting list. There are a lot of really good bowlers who bat in it and fewer real all rounders than you might think. I suppose 2000 runs isn't that high a bar and 300 wickets really is.
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Old 30th July 2015, 17:23   #2049
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I guess you have to play a lot of games to get 300 wickets and bowl a lot of overs. Seems more logical now that bowlers aren't rabbits to be bowlers who do this.
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Old 30th July 2015, 22:39   #2050
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Mitch can reach both in this game.
And he has done so.

An interesting little battle tomorrow. 3 Aussie wickets needed. Broad needs 1 for 300 wickets. Finn needs all three for 100 wickets. Chances are they'll be one each for Ali and Stoke and a lucky breakthrough by Root.
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Old 31st July 2015, 00:29   #2051
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Congratulations to Dale Steyn on being the fastest in terms of balls bowled to 400 wickets. He has also equalled Hadlee by doing it in 80 tests. murali managed it in 72 tests.

If Broad gets 300 it will be the first time two players have done it in the same game.
Mitch hit 300 in his 69th, 11 fewer than Anderson and at least 12 fewer than Broad. All the Aussies with 300 or near scalps got them significantly quicker than our opening bowlers which puts their achievements into context a bit.
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Old 31st July 2015, 00:33   #2052
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Mitch hit 300 in his 69th, 11 fewer than Anderson and at least 12 fewer than Broad. All the Aussies with 300 or near scalps got them significantly quicker than our opening bowlers which puts their achievements into context a bit.
Possibly but you also need to consider how many rain draws happen in England and the quality of the other bowlers. Since Mitch has played Oz have not had a particularly good spin bowler and Shane Watson has been a bowler. This means more wickets available.
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That's just conjecture, you could easily say that playing in a better attack puts batsmen under more pressure from your talented colleagues so you're more likely to take wickets. Brett Lee hit 300 in 73 matches and he played with Warne and McGrath.
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Wasn't there a stat showing that Johnson got more wickets when bowling with Harris? I don't know how much that correlation equated to causation but it seems to negate the conjecture that good bowlers reduce the opportunities for others.
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Five bowlers vs four bowlers in an attack is important. When your fifth bowler is a non wicket taker like Watson then more wickets to go round than if your fifth bowler is flintoff
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And he has done so.

An interesting little battle tomorrow. 3 Aussie wickets needed. Broad needs 1 for 300 wickets. Finn needs all three for 100 wickets. Chances are they'll be one each for Ali and Stoke and a lucky breakthrough by Root.
A wicket each for Stokes and Ali. No records achieved, so I was nearly right.
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Wasn't there a stat showing that Johnson got more wickets when bowling with Harris? I don't know how much that correlation equated to causation but it seems to negate the conjecture that good bowlers reduce the opportunities for others.
Suspect it's really quite complex. There is certainly evidence that being in a good attack reduces your own bowling average. Whether it offers you more wickets must depend on a bunch of other factors too, including especially how many runs your side gets and to a lesser extent how quickly it scores them.

SVaZ, following tests in Sri Lanka and Bangladesh recently, you might want to revise your point about England's weather. There aren't actually that many games with enough time lost to rain here that bowlers don't get their shot at 20 wickets.
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Isn't our win loss win loss etc now a record for most inconsistent run?
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Isn't our win loss win loss etc now a record for most inconsistent run?
Apparently no other side has alternated victory and defeat for seven games, no. Course a world of test cricket without many draws helps, as does playing roughly even sides at home. Still a shocker to have lost that test to WI though.
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Isn't our win loss win loss etc now a record for most inconsistent run?
I wonder if this inconsistency isn't now consistency?

England have only scored more than 500 in an innings on three occasions since the start of 2012 (in kolkata 2012 and lords and the rose bowl in 2014). That's three times in 45 matches.
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