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Old 14th December 2017, 13:49   #121
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How did Boycott wangle a contract with BT that gives him 90-minute commentating stints leaving everyone else to grab 5 minutes here and there?
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Old 14th December 2017, 14:26   #122
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How did Boycott wangle a contract with BT that gives him 90 minute commentating stints leaving everyone else to grab 5 minutes here and there?
To stop you from having to listen to Swann?
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Old 14th December 2017, 15:09   #123
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Old 14th December 2017, 15:45   #124
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How did Boycott wangle a contract with BT that gives him 90-minute commentating stints leaving everyone else to grab 5 minutes here and there?
Presumably they get one stint per point. Once they've finished their point they move onto the next commentator.
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Old 14th December 2017, 16:46   #125
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Presumably they get one stint per point. Once they've finished their point they move onto the next commentator.
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I feared the worst when Root was dismissed (shortly to be followed by Stoneman) but Malan and Bairstow batted superbly.

I had written Malan off after failing to convince during the English summer but, even before today, he has shaped up pretty well on this tour.

Vince on the other hand is surely toast after giving his wicket away to yet another airy waft. Diabolical.

The pitch looks good and the outfield is like lightning so hopefully England will be able to push on to a big score tomorrow.
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Old 14th December 2017, 17:30   #127
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England 350ao. Australia end day 2 near parity for only 4 wickets.
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Old 14th December 2017, 20:06   #129
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Great day, but we need to follow it with another 2-3 great days.

450 is a minimum requirement from here, especially given we have a medium-fast paced attack on a fast, bouncy but very flat pitch.

I can see 450 plays 500 plus and England hanging on to bat out a draw.
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An optimist would say England declare at 601 for 8 leaving the Aussies a tricky 3/4 of an hour before close, during that time Jimmy and Broad take a wicket each.

That is less likely than England <400 ao methinks.
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I think Broad will bowl well on this, might be a hard slog for the rest though. Have to cash in desperately with that new ball. Australia looked like they take a wicket on a regularly basis, it's just everything else was flying to the fence if they weren't.
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Old 14th December 2017, 20:57   #132
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I think Broad will bowl well on this, might be a hard slog for the rest though. Have to cash in desperately with that new ball. Australia looked like they take a wicket on a regularly basis, it's just everything else was flying to the fence if they weren't.
Perhaps, but is Broad quick enough to trouble the batsmen without lateral movement?

He used to be able to touch 90 mph and extract the bounce, but now he is down on speed he might find it hard work. Clearly, I hope I am wrong.

Overton is also not perhaps quick enough, Woakes is quicker but does this pitch suit him?

Jimmy will be a threat with the new ball but may need to to reverse to get any joy.
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Perhaps, but is Broad quick enough to trouble the batsmen without lateral movement?

He used to be able to touch 90 mph and extract the bounce, but now he is down on speed he might find it hard work. Clearly, I hope I am wrong.

Overton is also not perhaps quick enough, Woakes is quicker but does this pitch suit him?

Jimmy will be a threat with the new ball but may need to to reverse to get any joy.
I think the bounce off a good length with some slight seam movement a la McGrath could do for a few batsman on this. Anything full and wide at that pace however will be dispatched. But get Aus 3 down quick with the new pill and then you have the Marsh disasters and it could be very interesting.
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Overton had smith in knots at times in the last match. His bounce from a length will shock a few of the Aussies. He is not quick but I reckon he does okay on this pitch.
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I think the bounce off a good length with some slight seam movement a la McGrath could do for a few batsman on this. Anything full and wide at that pace however will be dispatched. But get Aus 3 down quick with the new pill and then you have the Marsh disasters and it could be very interesting.
Just seen this. This is basically what I meant in my other post.
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Ah, I see that I've triggered the circle-jerking reactionaries on here.

I'm not bothered about the anthem. Always thought we could choose something a bit more lively, but GSTQ is what we've got. As Rob says it's the dull, repetitive chanting as a "joke" that's been repeated on each Ashes tour for a generation or two. At least come up with a new set of songs.
Coming late to this but I find it a bit tedious when the Barmy Army sings it. It good for formal occasions but not when sung tunelessly by a bunch of people who've had a few too many.
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There's a bit of a myth that teams need great pace on this pitch. The Aussies have lost here in recent history to teams with far less potent seam attack than England has. The right length is more important, something the Aussies failed at on day 1 (too full or too short).

A big 1st innings here could see the Aussies crumble from scoreboard pressure alone. If it flattens out to another waca superhighway and the Aussies respond with a good score, and with storms predicted for the last 2 days (90% chance of rain/storms), the draw is more likely here than any of the other venues.
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Old 15th December 2017, 00:52   #138
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Aus record at the waca over the last 10 years. Won 4, lost 4, 1 draw. It has hardly been a great Aus fortress like the 'Gabba.

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Ought to be a bit premature to be talking about what the English bowlers can do, don't we think? Malan and Bairstow are basically opening against a rapid pace attack with a newish ball. Get that ball up to 20 overs, all of the quicks with a few overs under their belt and that 9will be ideal for Mo and Woakes. England need to take it as 0-4 after 9 overs.
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There's a bit of a myth that teams need great pace on this pitch. The Aussies have lost here in recent history to teams with far less potent seam attack than England has. .

Rabada, Steyn and Philander are less potent than Englands attack?
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