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Old 11th January 2018, 12:10   #21
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Are you sure?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...r/1076382.html

I think MRNC is having you on.

Not quite, I clicked on his name and cricinfo pulled up this;

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...ayer/5599.html

At least the world is making slightly more sense now.
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Old 11th January 2018, 12:19   #22
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Nice to see Rashid stick two fingers up to the test selectors and bag three wickets .
good on him!
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Old 11th January 2018, 13:22   #23
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So Hales playing for England without his disciplinary hearing for being out late. Bairstow, Plunkett and Ball given formal written warnings and fines.
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Old 11th January 2018, 13:52   #24
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So Hales playing for England without his disciplinary hearing for being out late. Bairstow, Plunkett and Ball given formal written warnings and fines.
He was already suspended for a game in the immediate aftermath.
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Old 11th January 2018, 13:55   #25
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He was already suspended for a game in the immediate aftermath.
Why were the ECB saying that Hales has to wait for the outcome of the Stokes decision before his hearing?
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Old 11th January 2018, 14:23   #26
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Why were the ECB saying that Hales has to wait for the outcome of the Stokes decision before his hearing?
Because they are a bunch of clowns.
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Old 11th January 2018, 14:24   #27
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Why were the ECB saying that Hales has to wait for the outcome of the Stokes decision before his hearing?
Because at the least he's a witness in an ongoing criminal investigation.

Personally I don't have a problem with the hearing being put off until after the police/cps/possible trial but suspending them as well just seems to be the ECB hierarchy doing what's best for themselves rather than the team.
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Old 11th January 2018, 15:25   #28
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Why were the ECB saying that Hales has to wait for the outcome of the Stokes decision before his hearing?
So as to not prejudice any Stokes hearing.

This is an entirely legitimate move.
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Old 11th January 2018, 15:52   #29
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Nice to see Rashid stick two fingers up to the test selectors and bag three wickets .
Along with Moeen being excellent showing that he's England's go-to spinner once more, too? Still, we know Rashid is a fine limited overs bowler, and I do expect him to have a good series. Absence of Stokes and potentially Woakes might give him more of a chance to prove himself with the bat in the LO sides too.
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Old 11th January 2018, 21:54   #30
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Along with Moeen being excellent showing that he's England's go-to spinner once more, too? Still, we know Rashid is a fine limited overs bowler, and I do expect him to have a good series. Absence of Stokes and potentially Woakes might give him more of a chance to prove himself with the bat in the LO sides too.
I hope he doesn't have a chance to prove himself with the bat as he'll likely still be at #10.
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Old 12th January 2018, 10:07   #31
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I hope he doesn't have a chance to prove himself with the bat as he'll likely still be at #10.
Rashid had to bowl overs 41/43/45 - crucial to have something different at the death - not sure the other slow bowler will be trusted late or early in the innings.
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Old 12th January 2018, 10:15   #32
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Nice to see Rashid stick two fingers up to the test selectors and bag three wickets .


Is this a parody?
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Old 12th January 2018, 10:50   #33
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Rashid had to bowl overs 41/43/45 - crucial to have something different at the death - not sure the other slow bowler will be trusted late or early in the innings.
Nor in the middle of it, perhaps.
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Rashid had to bowl overs 41/43/45 - crucial to have something different at the death - not sure the other slow bowler will be trusted late or early in the innings.
Huh, I was talking about him batting late in the order and if he gets a chance to bat it means England probably aren't doing too well....

I don't have a problem with his ODI bowling it's very effective as long as the fields are set correctly.
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Old 13th January 2018, 00:30   #35
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Huh, I was talking about him batting late in the order and if he gets a chance to bat it means England probably aren't doing too well....

I don't have a problem with his ODI bowling it's very effective as long as the fields are set correctly.
Quite possibly our best ODI bowler.
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Quite possibly our best ODI bowler.
Yeah that's fair, although it's rather a tallest dwarf competition. Not sure what that's got to do with his batting position though?
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Yeah that's fair, although it's rather a tallest dwarf competition. Not sure what that's got to do with his batting position though?
Personally itís a shame for him to have to come in in at 10 but a sign of the strength of the tail - if he scores runs he will move up.

A good problem to have.
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Personally itís a shame for him to have to come in in at 10 but a sign of the strength of the tail - if he scores runs he will move up.

A good problem to have.
Yeah it's rather weird especially when he's at 11!

Obviously with pretty much all our ODI bowlers being at least useful with the bat gives us great strength but I'm not really sure Woakes and Rashid are that suited to being that low down as both are more suited to batting in the middle overs than slogging at the end, I don't really see how England take advantage of that other than putting moving them up the order in if we lose a few early wickets and saving Buttler and to a lesser extent Morgan/Ali/Plunkett for the last 20.
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Yeah it's rather weird especially when he's at 11!

Obviously with pretty much all our ODI bowlers being at least useful with the bat gives us great strength but I'm not really sure Woakes and Rashid are that suited to being that low down as both are more suited to batting in the middle overs than slogging at the end, I don't really see how England take advantage of that other than putting moving them up the order in if we lose a few early wickets and saving Buttler and to a lesser extent Morgan/Ali/Plunkett for the last 20.
Yeah Rashid and especially Woakes have been good when weíve been up against it. Small chases where weíve lost early wickets and run rate hasnít been too much of an issue. They arenít going to be ideal for 60 from 6. Suppose itís about having that flexibility and knowing when the likes of Plunkett, Curran or Willey should bat above them.
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