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Old 16th September 2010, 13:05   #1
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Andrew Flintoff

http://www.cricinfo.com/england/cont...ry/477345.html

Folks, it looks like this is it and Freddie is calling it quits. It doesn't come as any real surprise as it looked like his main reason for getting fit again was to cash in as some roving T20 specialist. However I will think more good of him than I will bad. At his height he was the lynchpin of the bowling 5 who was able to add accuracy and aggression to that attack of the mid noughties who was a more than capable lower order hitter. Yes he didn't quite obtain the bowling stats he should have had but that was at least partially because Bumble brought him in at least a couple of years before he was ready and had a rather ill-formed action back then. You could also argue that his off-field 're-fuelling' through his career may have contributed to his latter day injury strife and it still rankles that he was made captain for that ill fated Ashes tour. Even so farewell Freddie!
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Old 16th September 2010, 13:30   #2
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They should give him a farewell test in the Ashes.
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Old 16th September 2010, 13:45   #3
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They should give him a farewell test in the Ashes.
I think the Lord's Ashes test 2009 will go down as his valedictory test, even though he made a couple more appearances.

It's very sad for Flintoff, he has been working so hard to get himself ready for a return to cricket. He's talked the talk but deep down he probably knew the chances were slim.
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What a terrific cricketer. Sad to see another one go, someone who always gave his all and wanted to entertain. There will be people who will go on about his stats but his peak years were ravaged by injury and he still very nearly got the batting average above his bowling average. Good luck to him in whatever he does next.
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I'll remember him for being responsible for some of the most exhilarating spells of fast bowling in the noughties. Oh, and being a true lad and being able to drink beer by the gallon - and regularly doing so whenever possible.
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Thanks Fred. I'll genuinely miss seeing him on greensward. He gave me such moments of great pleasure over the last decade.
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Oh, and being a true lad and being able to drink beer by the gallon - and regularly doing so whenever possible.
And some of us will go on thinking that doing just that led to his career being in ruins. He abused his own body and it couldn't take it and rebelled.

I won't say anymore on the subject.
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And some of us will go on thinking that doing just that led to his career being in ruins. He abused his own body and it couldn't take it and rebelled.

I won't say anymore on the subject.
Not the first and won't be the last sportsman to under achieve due to excesses elsewhere.

A genuine character though even though I became less and less keen on his triumphant gestures after taking a wicket.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/9005165.stm

A fuller article than the early notice from the Beeb.
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And some of us will go on thinking that doing just that led to his career being in ruins. He abused his own body and it couldn't take it and rebelled.

I won't say anymore on the subject.
He missed one ODI through alcohol but missed about 50 Test matches due to knee and ankle injuries. I think the latter had a bigger impact on the decline of his career myself.
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He missed one ODI through alcohol but missed about 50 Test matches due to knee and ankle injuries. I think the latter had a bigger impact on the decline of his career myself.
You might not think the abuse of alcohol didn't have a major contributory effect on his knees and ankles but many don't share your view. Once you've buggered something up it isn't always easy to heal it.
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He missed one ODI through alcohol but missed about 50 Test matches due to knee and ankle injuries. I think the latter had a bigger impact on the decline of his career myself.
I think what Lizzy is trying to get at is that overdoing alcohol over a period of time potentially hampers a body's recovery injuries as the conditioning is impaired by taking such substance.
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He was a real hero, just as Botham was.

He could also be a real arse, just as Botham was (and is).
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I think what Lizzy is trying to get at is that overdoing alcohol over a period of time potentially hampers a body's recovery injuries as the conditioning is impaired by taking such substance.
It's not as if he is an alcoholic. He had a few famous binges but when he was rehabbing didn't touch a drop by all accounts. It was the way his foot pointed inwards when bowling that hurt his career, not drinking.
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They should give him a farewell test in the Ashes.
A good way to go.
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It's not as if he is an alcoholic. He had a few famous binges but when he was rehabbing didn't touch a drop by all accounts. It was the way his foot pointed inwards when bowling that hurt his career, not drinking.
Yes..I recall Boycott saying that he had ankles like bird legs..very injury prone especially with the massive strain he put on them when bowling..he was an effort bowler.
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My favourite all time English player. Used to be Gower believe it or not.

Well done Freddie. When at his best, was up there with the best fast bowlers in the world. In the 00s not too many compete. Shame injury curtailed his career.

Now it's time to relax and write the Pedalo diaries.
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And some of us will go on thinking that doing just that led to his career being in ruins. He abused his own body and it couldn't take it and rebelled.

I won't say anymore on the subject.
Yes, beer being that well known destroyer of knees and ankles.
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Yes, beer being that well known destroyer of knees and ankles.
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Injuries were cruel to him.

He was a great character and someone who was entertaining and wholehearted as a competitor.

Statistics to some degree, probably belie what an excellent bowler he was but he'll be remembered for taking key wickets at opportune moments.

Good luck for the future Freddy!
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