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Old 9th September 2007, 21:09   #281
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England coach Peter Moores has hinted that Ian Bell would be part of his World 20/20 plans if he had received more time to select a squad.

Ian Bell hit 422 runs against India to claim the Nat West Man of the Series award after the 20/20 party was announced on August 6.

"I never realised how good a player he (Bell) actually was said Moores who also left out James Anderson initially.

You see that very clearly when you work with him. He is a very talented player and he is starting to get that out and starting to produce very consistent performances.
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Old 9th September 2007, 21:24   #282
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So does that mean that he wanted Jimmy in the squad after his performances and was pleased that he could use him as a replacement?
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Old 9th September 2007, 22:07   #283
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So does that mean that he wanted Jimmy in the squad after his performances and was pleased that he could use him as a replacement?
When they were selecting Graveney said they relied on stats more this time when picking the team. Sidebottom and Broad were the most economical, Kirtley the best death bowler and Tremlett's figures quite good but his height might have been a strong factor. The next in line I think would have been Lewis. Also a very economical bowler. It was surprising that Lewis was not the next one in. They chose Anderson after his expensive Oval bowling. My first thought was that they were probably glad they had not picked him.

Previously Bell has been very slow and was probably wondering if he could keep his place in the ODI team. Then as the series progressed he changed completely. You could see why they had changed their mind about Bell but I can't see why they went for Anderson.

Why not Mascarenhas for Bopara? Why get JA in at the first opportunity? I think Sidebottom was fit to be taken and they are probably using the excuse that he isn't match fit and after Dimi's performances with the bat and ball wanted him in. It would be nice to be a fly on the wall when all these discussions went on.
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Old 9th September 2007, 23:02   #284
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When they were selecting Graveney said they relied on stats more this time when picking the team. Sidebottom and Broad were the most economical, Kirtley the best death bowler and Tremlett's figures quite good but his height might have been a strong factor. The next in line I think would have been Lewis. Also a very economical bowler. It was surprising that Lewis was not the next one in. They chose Anderson after his expensive Oval bowling. My first thought was that they were probably glad they had not picked him.

Previously Bell has been very slow and was probably wondering if he could keep his place in the ODI team. Then as the series progressed he changed completely. You could see why they had changed their mind about Bell but I can't see why they went for Anderson.

Why not Mascarenhas for Bopara? Why get JA in at the first opportunity? I think Sidebottom was fit to be taken and they are probably using the excuse that he isn't match fit and after Dimi's performances with the bat and ball wanted him in. It would be nice to be a fly on the wall when all these discussions went on.
I'm not surprised they didn't go for Lewis, tbh. After all the hype about his economy rate and calls for his inclusion whenever there's an injury, I'm not desperately impressed. He didn't have a great match but even so he seems clueless in the field and looks like a big girl's blouse, although this should not enter the equation.

Re Anderson's bowling at the Oval, you will have noticed that the only critics of his performance are amateurs on cricket boards. All the pundits have been praising him all season and say he was just unlucky at the Oval - certainly he induced a good number of edges which would have gone to hand another day. The selectors are obviously confident that his form will help him bowl better in the 20/20 format than he has done previously, and I expect that having been selected at the last minute he will definitely make the final XI.

As for Bell - this bit from the report:

Bell, who had packed his bags in hope of a late call, will next join up with the squad later this month for the limited-overs series in Sri Lanka.

Aw bless!
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Old 9th September 2007, 23:08   #285
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James Kirtley may well find himself on drinks duties now that Anderson has been included!
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How can you bring along a death bowling specialist and not use him?
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I'm not surprised they didn't go for Lewis, tbh. After all the hype about his economy rate and calls for his inclusion whenever there's an injury, I'm not desperately impressed. He didn't have a great match but even so he seems clueless in the field and looks like a big girl's blouse, although this should not enter the equation.

Re Anderson's bowling at the Oval, you will have noticed that the only critics of his performance are amateurs on cricket boards. All the pundits have been praising him all season and say he was just unlucky at the Oval - certainly he induced a good number of edges which would have gone to hand another day. The selectors are obviously confident that his form will help him bowl better in the 20/20 format than he has done previously, and I expect that having been selected at the last minute he will definitely make the final XI.

As for Bell - this bit from the report:

Bell, who had packed his bags in hope of a late call, will next join up with the squad later this month for the limited-overs series in Sri Lanka.

Aw bless!
It seems Bell is the next in line if Flintoff has to come home. So he better not unpack those bags.
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How can you bring along a death bowling specialist and not use him?
Because Chris Schofield will skittle them all out in overs 11,13,15 and 17.
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I really think there should have been a space in squad for Bell after his excellent performances. I really think that the squad is at least 1 bowler heavy and that we really should look at the part time options such as Colly, who has proved a good T20 bowler in the past. If Freddie and Dimi play, one of the spinners and one of the seamers should be enough IMO. Too many seamers in the squad.
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Australia have 5, Clark, Lee, Hilfenhaus, Bracken and Johnson.

England 4 - Tremlett, Kirtley, Anderson and Broad.

I would think 2 fast bowlers, Flintoff and two spinners. Mascarenhas and Collingwood are in for their batting and could be useful if one of the other bowlers are being expensive. We just don't know which bowlers will do best in South Africa early season but at least we have a choice.
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Flintoff should be kept at home for this period, he's not doing himself any good going over for this at all.
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Australia have 5, Clark, Lee, Hilfenhaus, Bracken and Johnson.

England 4 - Tremlett, Kirtley, Anderson and Broad.

I would think 2 fast bowlers, Flintoff and two spinners. Mascarenhas and Collingwood are in for their batting and could be useful if one of the other bowlers are being expensive. We just don't know which bowlers will do best in South Africa early season but at least we have a choice.
So far the spinners have been caned while there is a lot of swing and none of the practice matches have been played in the coastal venues where it's expected to be even more favourable to the pacemen. The Aussies were surprised regarding the amount of swing and lack of help for spinners. Maybe that's why the SA attack is also so heavily seam-based.

Swing or not, our bowlers got a big of a thumping from the Proteas but none of the matches will be played up in Pretoria.
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So far the spinners have been caned while there is a lot of swing and none of the practice matches have been played in the coastal venues where it's expected to be even more favourable to the pacemen. The Aussies were surprised regarding the amount of swing and lack of help for spinners. Maybe that's why the SA attack is also so heavily seam-based.

Swing or not, our bowlers got a big of a thumping from the Proteas but none of the matches will be played up in Pretoria.
Hence the odds on the Aussies winning must be shortened.

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Flintoff should be kept at home for this period, he's not doing himself any good going over for this at all.



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England coach Peter Moores has hinted that Ian Bell would be part of his World 20/20 plans if he had received more time to select a squad.

Ian Bell hit 422 runs against India to claim the Nat West Man of the Series award after the 20/20 party was announced on August 6.

"I never realised how good a player he (Bell) actually was said Moores who also left out James Anderson initially.

You see that very clearly when you work with him. He is a very talented player and he is starting to get that out and starting to produce very consistent performances.
Did Moores not watch England before taking the job then?
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Id have thought the 262 not out Bell got V Sussex at Horsham in 2004 would have been a clue as well
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Did Moores not watch England before taking the job then?



Its not really the sort of answer you want from the England coach.
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To be fair who, apart from Warwickshire supporters, believed he could bat like this in one days?
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To be fair who, apart from Warwickshire supporters, believed he could bat like this in one days?
Not even the Warwickshire management.
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To be fair who, apart from Warwickshire supporters, believed he could bat like this in one days?
His potential for greatness has been evident for quite some time, to me at least anyway .. His problem has been that he needs to chill out and just hit the bloody ball
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