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Old 30th August 2009, 22:24   #1
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Afghanistan

I haven't seen a thread about them yet.

It seems they have captured my interest over the last few months, just how the way they have grown so quickly. They have a opener called Ali who would easily be good enough to play for a county side, and I hear they have some youngsters who are also pretty good.

As I said in another thread, It's nice to see a new team playing cricket.
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Old 31st August 2009, 11:04   #2
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I haven't seen a thread about them yet.

It seems they have captured my interest over the last few months, just how the way they have grown so quickly. They have a opener called Ali who would easily be good enough to play for a county side, and I hear they have some youngsters who are also pretty good.

As I said in another thread, It's nice to see a new team playing cricket.
Well they are my second team as well. Its a great story. Bbc did a good piece on them a while ago
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Old 31st August 2009, 14:19   #3
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Exactly how much cricket is actually played in Afghanistan? How good are the players just behind the national side?

I'll curb my enthusiasm for now. Their success says more about the lack of development in the associate countries.
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Old 1st September 2009, 20:26   #4
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Well, they won pretty easily today by 6 wickets, with a 18 year old getting 110.
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Old 10th September 2009, 22:27   #5
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Well, they won pretty easily today by 6 wickets, with a 18 year old getting 110.
Speaking of talented 18 year olds, Dawlatzai 6/30 destroys the Netherlands Under 19s.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/605384.html

This is a story about Mohammad Shazad, the Afghanistan keeper-batsman. He has a very good record indeed and I particularly enjoy the story of his contratemps with Boom-Boom Afridi, whom he smacked out of the ground while the latter was bowling.
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Old 2nd October 2013, 14:40   #7
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One match away from the 50 over World Cup after beating Kenya! How about that then!
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Old 4th October 2013, 19:32   #8
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One match away from the 50 over World Cup after beating Kenya! How about that then!
Great story. Really pleased for them!
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Old 4th October 2013, 20:12   #9
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Old 4th October 2013, 22:34   #10
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Just watched an appalling current affairs report on C4 on how women in Afghanistan are treated by most' Afghani men, making the Qatari cheap labors issues look like petty grips.
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Wonder when England will make their first tour there?
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Watching the Afghans this tournament, it is clear they have some genuine quality in the team. They outplayed their opponents in all the qualifying games, and today they showed they are more than capable of competing with the bigger sides. It's a shame the ICC are restricting the amount of games the associated nations can play against the Test sides, because if this side is to develop further, they need to be competing against the bigger teams, not just thrashing their associate peers.
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Watching the Afghans this tournament, it is clear they have some genuine quality in the team. They outplayed their opponents in all the qualifying games, and today they showed they are more than capable of competing with the bigger sides. It's a shame the ICC are restricting the amount of games the associated nations can play against the Test sides, because if this side is to develop further, they need to be competing against the bigger teams, not just thrashing their associate peers.
The ICC in reality are only arsed about lining their pockets rather than any development of the game - no matter how much they want to talk up the opposite. The theme from the preliminary groups was one of frustration and that's probably quite fitting for how the associates feel regarding their treatment.You look at Netherlands they were excellent last time and held their own in the super 10s but have barely played a fixture since - I think I read the other day they only play a further two this year. Your not going to improve as a team or individual with such nonsensical exposure are you?

It's only going to get worse as well what with the 50 over World Cup closing it's doors to associates and this tournament moving to once every four years. It's pretty hard to get a young player to commit to a cycle like that isn't?

The whole thing stinks in my opinion.
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The 50 over WC hasn't closed its doors to associates at all.
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The 50 over WC hasn't closed its doors to associates at all.
Whilst maybe not completely, reducing the number of slots available by half is nothing but a kick in the stomach. It's almost a little bit like a token gesture, particualrly when in reality it's likely only one is gonig to get through to the tournament proper.
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The 50 over WC hasn't closed its doors to associates at all.
I don't think you'll ever see a team like Scotland or Hong Kong at the WC proper in its new format. And at this tournament at least the associate sides have had been part of the tournament in some respect, at the next WC the qualification takes place well before the proper tournament starts. I can't think of another sport which goes out of its way to limit interest in the game.
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The ICC in reality are only arsed about lining their pockets rather than any development of the game - no matter how much they want to talk up the opposite.
Money is king these days. Even more so with the Indians running the show and England and Australia backing the up because they don't want to feel left out. As we've seen with the (lack of) organisation of this tournament the Indians aren't particularly good at actually running things so we have to expect that the whole thing will end up a mess. Them being ICC leaders is like the school teacher picking the most talented kid to be captain of the school team. The logic is flawed but you can see why it happens.

Onto Afghanistan. They have Inzi as Coach right? Their batting and bowling skills are excellent but their fielding was shocking.
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Money is king these days. Even more so with the Indians running the show and England and Australia backing the up because they don't want to feel left out. As we've seen with the (lack of) organisation of this tournament the Indians aren't particularly good at actually running things so we have to expect that the whole thing will end up a mess. Them being ICC leaders is like the school teacher picking the most talented kid to be captain of the school team. The logic is flawed but you can see why it happens.

Onto Afghanistan. They have Inzi as Coach right? Their batting and bowling skills are excellent but their fielding was shocking.
There clearly needs to be more access to international cricket for the leading associate teams outside of the major tournaments. In that way not only are they likely to be more competitive in big tournaments but that in itself will help feed those lower down the chain who will have to improve to compete with them in associate matches. It may even keep the lesser 'main' teams on their toes.
The likes of Holland, Ireland and Scotland clearly have some decent players but strangling their development is clearly just dumb.

What was the running between the wickets like? I watched a few of their games in the last round and noted that their fielding was very poor. I don't much rate their wicket-keeper who was not only a bit of a porker but seemed to have a concentration issue behind the sticks. He can bat well though.
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I don't think you'll ever see a team like Scotland or Hong Kong at the WC proper in its new format. And at this tournament at least the associate sides have had been part of the tournament in some respect, at the next WC the qualification takes place well before the proper tournament starts. I can't think of another sport which goes out of its way to limit interest in the game.
RE Scotland and HK- possibly not , but is that a bad thing? They are pretty garbage to be honest.

Although there are quite a few associates playing the game now, is there really any genuine appetite in these countries for the game? Excluding perhaps the Afghans, there isn't, it's just a few amateurs and ex-pats.The last country that had a genuine interest in the game to be included was Bangladesh, and they were promoted (only to have spent years getting their *** kicked). Test cricket is dying in most of the test countries already playing, so we must NOT create more test teams, leading to more one-sided thrashings that will diminish interest further.

A ten, max-12, team world cup is sufficient to avoid wasted matches and hopefully those associates that do qualify will be battle-hardened enough to give the established nations more of a game.
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RE Scotland and HK- possibly not , but is that a bad thing? They are pretty garbage to be honest.

Although there are quite a few associates playing the game now, is there really any genuine appetite in these countries for the game? Excluding perhaps the Afghans, there isn't, it's just a few amateurs and ex-pats.The last country that had a genuine interest in the game to be included was Bangladesh, and they were promoted (only to have spent years getting their *** kicked). Test cricket is dying in most of the test countries already playing, so we must NOT create more test teams, leading to more one-sided thrashings that will diminish interest further.

A ten, max-12, team world cup is sufficient to avoid wasted matches and hopefully those associates that do qualify will be battle-hardened enough to give the established nations more of a game.
But it's not about trying to expand test cricket, just allowing these countries to at least keep cricket on a firm ground and try to grow it. Ireland has had cricket as quite a rapidly expanding sport over the last few years (just try doing a search on Ireland and fastest growing sport) and it has done well. Yet in the last few days, the team crashing out ahead of the super 10 stages has barely caused much of a mention though Porterfield pointed out that their lack of games is stymying their development. Ireland has an advantage up to a point in that many of their side play f/c cricket in England (so long as they don't become too good and get poached of course) yet their own path to progression even in short format cricket is being hindered. The Irish have had 3 decent 50 over World Cup tournaments yet could now be on the outside through little fault of their own.
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