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Old 7th August 2018, 12:20   #1
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England v India 2nd Test Lords 9-13 August

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Old 7th August 2018, 12:53   #2
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I reckon Lords is India's best chance to win a test in this series.

If they win the toss and score 300+ then England will be in serious trouble having to bat last on what is sure to be a crumbling dry pitch. Even batting 3rd could be a stretch.
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Old 7th August 2018, 15:04   #3
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I reckon Lords is India's best chance to win a test in this series.

If they win the toss and score 300+ then England will be in serious trouble having to bat last on what is sure to be a crumbling dry pitch. Even batting 3rd could be a stretch.
Before England recall Moeen?
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Old 7th August 2018, 16:19   #4
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Before England recall Moeen?
Moeen is already in the squad so I'm not sure how he can be recalled. Can be selected I guess but given India were bowled out twice and Root used only 12 overs of spin in the first test I'd suggest that would be a radical change of direction to pick two spinners.
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Old 7th August 2018, 16:36   #5
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I reckon Lords is India's best chance to win a test in this series.

If they win the toss and score 300+ then England will be in serious trouble having to bat last on what is sure to be a crumbling dry pitch. Even batting 3rd could be a stretch.
London looks to be a lot cooler over the coming week, with a few showers here and there. If Mr 'unt has been liberally watering his square, it may not be turn out to be too crumbly.
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London looks to be a lot cooler over the coming week, with a few showers here and there. If Mr 'unt has been liberally watering his square, it may not be turn out to be too crumbly.
That would be preferable to the snake pit he served up last summer vs Saffers.

Facing Ashwin on that would have been very interesting (!)
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That would be preferable to the snake pit he served up last summer vs Saffers.

Facing Ashwin on that would have been very interesting (!)
Not just Aswhin it would allow them to play a second spinner which would improve their side.
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Not just Aswhin it would allow them to play a second spinner which would improve their side.
The fact that Jadeja, with 170 test wickets at 23, has only played 10 tests outside India (and 8 outside Asia) is remarkable. The fact that he has such a brilliant record in India is more testament to the poor standard of batsmen's ability to play spin these days than him truly being an all-time great spinner, but you'd think he'd have more than a solitary test in the West Indies to show for his last 4 years outside India.
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That would be preferable to the snake pit he served up last summer vs Saffers.

Facing Ashwin on that would have been very interesting (!)
I wonder if ashwin could have taken a ten Fer. What a series that was with moeen taking a hat trick and a ten fer. Remarkable scenes.

I would be quite surprised to see moeen left out given good record at lord's and we are missing stokes.

I am not sure we will go with two spinners so it might be a little harsh but we might drop rashid and hope someone else can dismiss sharma.
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The fact that Jadeja, with 170 test wickets at 23, has only played 10 tests outside India (and 8 outside Asia) is remarkable. The fact that he has such a brilliant record in India is more testament to the poor standard of batsmen's ability to play spin these days than him truly being an all-time great spinner, but you'd think he'd have more than a solitary test in the West Indies to show for his last 4 years outside India.
I don't think there's anything quite like it in the modern game, as you say his record is more to do with opponents inability to play spin than him being an all-time great but he's an exceptional fielder and a very useful biffer down the order as well as his bowling and although India do play more at home Ashwin has played 40% of his tests away.
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I see the slip cordon will be Cook, Buttler and Jennings. Buttler has no experience at 2nd slip and hurt his hand last time there. Still can't get over Root not being there.
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I wonder if ashwin could have taken a ten Fer.
Of course he could have. Would probably have threatened Laker’s record!
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Thought Curran looked amazingly young but the Pope looks venerably pre teen almost. Good luck to him. Great to see these youngsters getting a chance.
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India do play more at home.
Is it true only for India? I know our team gets to play home and away in chunks, like we're playing most of our tests outside India from Jan 2018 until Jan 2019. Somehow, our tests to SA, England and Australia seem to be scheduled in a 15-month period or so always.
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Thought Curran looked amazingly young but the Pope looks venerably pre teen almost. Good luck to him. Great to see these youngsters getting a chance.
Yes - I like what Smith is doing - building for the future and an assault on the test championship once the WC is out of the way.
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Is it true only for India? I know our team gets to play home and away in chunks, like we're playing most of our tests outside India from Jan 2018 until Jan 2019. Somehow, our tests to SA, England and Australia seem to be scheduled in a 15-month period or so always.
Most teams seem to be able to find a reasonably balanced split between home and away matches. It is obviously easier for England as no one else really plays home Tests when we do.

Given that Test ratings put much emphasis on the latest 2 years, it would seem likely that India's rating could well fall dramatically given their schedule. It was artificially high due to not having been to any of the 3 countries you mentioned, and will now probably go the other way (unless they really do prove themselves the Number 1 Test Team).

But there really doesn't seem to be a dominant team at the mo. All are pretty strong in their own conditions, none seem to travel too well.
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I see the slip cordon will be Cook, Buttler and Jennings. Buttler has no experience at 2nd slip and hurt his hand last time there. Still can't get over Root not being there.
Where’s that stat about how many slip catches Cook has dropped?
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Where’s that stat about how many slip catches Cook has dropped?
'Inevitably, most of the fumbles came from the keeper and the slip cordon, where Alastair Cook is England’s biggest culprit with 18 drops since January 2016. Jonny Bairstow has dropped 16 and Root has let 11 slip through his fingers'.

I didn't realise that Bairstow was just as bad.
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Thought Curran looked amazingly young but the Pope looks venerably pre teen almost. Good luck to him. Great to see these youngsters getting a chance.
wonder if England have picked the wrong promising youngster, as he will have to bat higher than he usually does. Does Joe Clarke bat higher?
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