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View Poll Results: Who would you drop for the foreseeable future?
Moeen Ali 0 0%
Ian Bell 20 76.92%
Alex Hales 0 0%
Joe Root 0 0%
Eoin Morgan 19 73.08%
James Taylor 0 0%
Jos Buttler 1 3.85%
Chris Woakes 2 7.69%
Chris Jordan 5 19.23%
Stuart Broad 14 53.85%
James Anderson 23 88.46%
Steven Finn 10 38.46%
Gary Ballance 8 30.77%
James Tredwell 5 19.23%
Ravi Bopara 13 50.00%
Kevin Pietersen (it's clearly his fault: I heard him whistling) 7354 100.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 17th March 2015, 14:20   #81
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Not sure that's entirely accurate. Nathan Bracken was a regular because he was an exceptionally good bowler in this format, rather than because he was a lefty. Similar in a way (although not a lefty) to Clint Mackay. Trundlers at test level, very good ODI bowlers.

There is a far more defensive element to ODI bowling (compared to test bowling). Wickets are always the best way to slow a team down, but being "hard to get away" also doesn't hurt.
Absolutely and of course, being hard to get away buys you wickets. I think even Courtney Walsh said he just tried to bowl dot balls in ODIs and let the wickets look after themselves.
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Old 17th March 2015, 16:05   #82
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There's so much international cricket these days, and so many ODI fixtures, I don't see any benefit in including experienced Test players who are regular Test picks in the ODI's, especially the pace bowlers i.e. Anderson & Broad. For goodness sake manage their workload and give them time for proper rest and recuperation between Test series. The same should possibly also apply to the older batsmen such as Bell if we want them to prolong their Test careers.
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Old 17th March 2015, 18:09   #83
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There's so much international cricket these days, and so many ODI fixtures, I don't see any benefit in including experienced Test players who are regular Test picks in the ODI's, especially the pace bowlers i.e. Anderson & Broad. For goodness sake manage their workload and give them time for proper rest and recuperation between Test series. The same should possibly also apply to the older batsmen such as Bell if we want them to prolong their Test careers.
I agree with you - and it is attitude like ours that means we will always struggle at ODI!
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Old 17th June 2015, 21:21   #84
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So who would be changing their vote?
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It was a poor innings by Bell with the bat.
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Old 17th June 2015, 21:43   #85
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Ahem.....Eoin Morgan, never doubted him.
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Old 17th June 2015, 22:42   #86
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Morgan is clearly class in one day cricket, and the only question is how the England "system" managed to screw him up so badly, up to now, to make us doubt his credentials.
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Old 18th June 2015, 20:55   #87
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Finn has come back well too.

To be fair though the only additions to the batting line up have been Roy and Billings, who have scored the least runs. It's the established players who have had the biggest impact.
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Old 19th June 2015, 20:47   #88
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Finn has come back well too.

To be fair though the only additions to the batting line up have been Roy and Billings, who have scored the least runs. It's the established players who have had the biggest impact.
To be fair, the role that Hales is playing is entirely new to what was required of him in his limited opportunities before this series.

So, it is Roy, Billings, Hales 2.0, Stokes and Morgan (unburdened). Rashid, Wood and Finn (leader of the attack) represents a major rework. Plus, Buttler higher in the order makes a big difference.
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To be fair, the role that Hales is playing is entirely new to what was required of him in his limited opportunities before this series.

So, it is Roy, Billings, Hales 2.0, Stokes and Morgan (unburdened). Rashid, Wood and Finn (leader of the attack) represents a major rework. Plus, Buttler higher in the order makes a big difference.
Hales might be playing differently but he isn't literally a new player. Maybe the selectors deserve a bit more credit. I didn't like the WC squad but maybe it was more to do with the style of play than personnel.
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